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Re:W3C abandons consensus, standardizes DRM, EFF resigns by sitkack on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @02:54AM (#15282344)
> between content creators and content consumers

I think of it as the triumvirate of creators, owners (distributors) and consumers. The owners argue as if they create, the do not, they simply own the rights to distribute and take money. The vast majority of creators are getting shafted as well.

Re:W3C abandons consensus, standardizes DRM, EFF resigns by fauigerzigerk on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @06:15AM (#15283220)
>The owners argue as if they create, the do not, they simply own the rights to distribute and take money.

No. Creators are the owners of whatever they create unless and until they sign those rights away. And they sign it away for something they get in return.

It may well be that the media industry is structured in a way that puts creators at an unfair disadvantage in their dealings with media companies. If that is so then it should change.

But using this issue to justify completely unrestricted copying of all content regardless of what creators want is a cop out. Invoking the big business bogeyman as the sole response to all copyright issues is unconvincing, insufficient and ineffective.

What we need is a form of DRM that guarantees fair use rights and doesn't give draconian enforcement and surveillance powers to copyright owners.

Re:W3C abandons consensus, standardizes DRM, EFF resigns by rainbowmverse on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @08:15AM (#15283926)
This. I think people forget that just because big companies are pushing it doesn't mean everyone who creates and wants limited protections is working under a big company's banner.

For me, streaming is a concession to people who prefer it to owning their music. I don't want them ripping a stream I made $0.004 on (at best) thinking it's a fair exchange of value. My focus is on Bandcamp and other stores that offer DRM-free downloads. Without some kind of friction for copying off streaming sites, if you could just click "download" and not pay me anything, I just wouldn't put my music there.

My belief is someone who goes and pays a fair amount for the music understands it costs money to create, and will encourage the people they share it with under the CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 license to help me make more by buying their own copy (or a subscription).

Re:W3C abandons consensus, standardizes DRM, EFF resigns by sitkack on Friday September 22, 2017 @09:00PM (#15317373)
Which is why I buy my music from DRM free, full fidelity sites like Bandcamp.
Re:W3C abandons consensus, standardizes DRM, EFF resigns by sitkack on Friday September 22, 2017 @09:02PM (#15317380)
You are putting words in my mouth. I didn't use corporate rights holder argument to justify unrestricted copying. But DRM is enforce market and device segmentation, not to empower content _creators_.