Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or they will seize it

Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by ivraatiems on Monday September 18, 2017 @11:46AM (#15276899)

Is a company morally obligated to serve all customers, and not permitted to exercise discretion about who they provide services to?

Even if those people are using the company's services to break the laws of the country the company operates in?

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by Mattasher on Monday September 18, 2017 @12:00PM (#15277013)

Domain registrars are providing a utility service, they are essentially "common carriers". Imagine if your phone company revoked your phone number, or the postal service refused to send you any mail because of the content of your communications? What if the DMV revoked your license plate because of a bumper sticker on your car? Domains are (at present) a key linchpin of freedom on the internet. If ICANN allows registrars to terminate contracts for political reasons, that's a huge blow to freedom online.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by peoplewindow on Monday September 18, 2017 @11:59AM (#15277007)

It's really a judge's responsibility to decide if they're breaking the law in this case. DNS registries can't possibly decide if Gab.ai is actually guilty of what they claim given the incredibly vague wording of the requirements. Surely Twitter and the Guardian could be argued to also meet such a vague standard to be banned.

It's quite obvious what's going on here. There's an organised effort to erase people with right wing views off the internet by people with extremist left wing views, who simply describe anything they don't like as "hate speech".

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by thatonechad on Monday September 18, 2017 @12:08PM (#15277083)

You are spot on. They are trying to do it behind the scenes at this point, but as the culture war continues to shift to the right winning they will go full blown. My theory is it will start with google, facebook, and twitter. This is why its more important to get these alternative media up before its too late.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by thatonechad on Monday September 18, 2017 @11:55AM (#15276983)

Im assuming you are an adult. And as adults we both know exactly what they are doing. Regardless gab should find somewhere else to host their registry and move on.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by cisanti on Monday September 18, 2017 @02:37PM (#15278352)

How on earth are you supposed to live on the internet then? Become a domain name registrar? You can't really avoid them, can you?

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by AtteLynx on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @06:15AM (#15283221)

I became a registrar for .fi because I was tired of dealing with other registrars. I only provide domains for myself and my friends, but it's still easier, cheaper, and more secure than going through some third party.

That being said, I have no personal experience with other TLDs, but based on a bit of searching some do seem quite easy to become a registrar for.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by cisanti on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @01:31PM (#15296240)

That is very interesting, can you give an estimate how much (more) does it cost to you be a registrar and own domains? Compared to random ones. I guess .fi is a bit more expensive than .com anyway.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by zichy on Monday September 18, 2017 @11:18AM (#15276660)

I should stop reading HN comments.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by thatonechad on Monday September 18, 2017 @11:56AM (#15276988)

I would probably because this site isn't the safe space you were hoping for. People have differing opinions.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by matt4077 on Monday September 18, 2017 @11:55AM (#15276975)

Or, you know, instead of re-litigating the Nuremberg Trials with every single idiot on the planet, use your agency not to participate in their propaganda efforts.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by thatonechad on Monday September 18, 2017 @12:10PM (#15277097)

Im assuming you are ok with shutting down twitter, facebook, and other social media platforms for allowing far left and extreme islamic terrorist ideologies?

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by api on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @01:30PM (#15286723)

What's Gab's policy on advocating terrorism? Has this user been terminated?

https://archive.fo/D70Yr

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by ZeroGravitas on Monday September 18, 2017 @01:59PM (#15278035)

Did twitter suggest that it wanted to host terrorist material due to an uncompromising commitment to free speech? I assume if you gave them a magic wand to wave that would remove all terrorist material then twitter would wave it. Could Gab say the same?

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by cosmiccartel on Monday September 18, 2017 @02:15PM (#15278169)

We're not talking about terrorist material. We're talking about speech. Holding and voicing controversial ideas is not terrorism.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by WorldMaker on Monday September 18, 2017 @02:44PM (#15278402)

Words have the power to terrorize people. They build fear. You have to really split hairs to not call that terrorism.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by cosmiccartel on Monday September 18, 2017 @03:31PM (#15278782)

Equating speech with terrorism builds fear in me. According to your logic, your own comment is terrorism. Unless you really want to split hairs.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by WorldMaker on Monday September 18, 2017 @06:25PM (#15280226)

Not all speech is equal in building fear/stress/intimidation. Bomb/death/dismemberment threats are very different from the content of my comment.

While most of us feel like we can shrug off threats and "words can't hurt me", that isn't actually true [1], it is possible for a campaign of terrorism (in terms of "intimidation [through fear] for a political aim") to be enacted solely in words.

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, and words have consequences in the way the brain processes them, even if we want to keep arguing whether or not it is valid for speech to also warrant consequences such as a private company (domain registrar) refusing to do business with another private company.

[1] It is something of a comfortable lie that we tell school children to avoid what actual science/psychology tells us is stressful/harmful to humans.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by dogma1138 on Monday September 18, 2017 @08:26PM (#15280861)

YC21 Ministry of Truth is hiring full stack engineers.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by thatonechad on Monday September 18, 2017 @03:25PM (#15278737)

You realize that the offending post was making a remark about a fat person, not terrorism.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by detaro on Monday September 18, 2017 @03:35PM (#15278809)

Has a specific post been named? source?

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by thatonechad on Monday September 18, 2017 @04:39PM (#15279329)

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/09/05/gab-now-under-th...

According to this. Scroll down and you can see the post says INTERNET FATTIES something or other. Unless im missing the context it seems pretty ridiculous.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by WorldMaker on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @02:27PM (#15296793)

Ars Technica journalists say the problem posts in question were anti-Semitic.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/twitter-rival-ga...

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by WorldMaker on Monday September 18, 2017 @06:26PM (#15280238)

I was unaware that the thread I was replying to was debating specifics rather than handwaving at generalities like freedom of speech.

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Re:Gab's domain registrar gives 5 days to transfer domain or... by sctb on Monday September 18, 2017 @02:41PM (#15278380)

Could you please stop breaking the guidelines and post more substantively than this?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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