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Re:Face ID, Touch ID, No ID, PINs and Pragmatic Security by kibwen on Thursday September 14, 2017 @08:52AM (#15247415)
> TouchID was removed because it took up space on the front of the phone and Apple wanted the screen to be bigger. There's no deeper reason than that.

The Pixel handset has the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone. It appears to work quite well. Much of this needless outrage could be obviated by allowing multiple simultaneous biometrics for auth; while taking the phone out of your pocket, place your finger on the sensor to initiate FaceID.

Re:Face ID, Touch ID, No ID, PINs and Pragmatic Security by colejohnson66 on Thursday September 14, 2017 @02:55PM (#15251286)
> The Pixel handset has the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone.

How would I use my phone on a desk without lifting it up? I can do that with TouchID, but if the sensor is on the back, I can’t.

Re:Face ID, Touch ID, No ID, PINs and Pragmatic Security by kibwen on Thursday September 14, 2017 @04:01PM (#15251982)
I confess, never in my years of phone ownership have I had that specific use case, or considered that it might be important for others. Do you find yourself doing that often? If so, can I ask what for?
Re:Face ID, Touch ID, No ID, PINs and Pragmatic Security by CocaKoala on Thursday September 14, 2017 @04:34PM (#15252275)
You can't really do that with the face id either, unless you loom over your desk in an awkward way.
Re:Face ID, Touch ID, No ID, PINs and Pragmatic Security by colejohnson66 on Thursday September 14, 2017 @04:55PM (#15252443)
From their promo video of iPhone X, FaceID works at angles over 45° (see the swimmer portion)
Re:Face ID, Touch ID, No ID, PINs and Pragmatic Security by eckza on Thursday September 14, 2017 @09:30AM (#15247774)
> multiple simultaneous biometrics

That's very un-Apple.