I'd be okay if they removed the headphone jack if the box came with 2x USB-C headphone jack converters (for when I naturally lose the first one). And they sell them everywhere for $5-10 at most.

If I had to go to an Apple store every time I lost my headphones and had to pay $20 for a new converter I'd go crazy. And I heard they don't even come with a free one with new iPhone's? (I could be wrong here)

This is the real core of the problem to me... they have to make legacy support extremely seamless after making an extreme early adopter product transition to wireless headphone tech. At least with the lighting chargers they are everywhere and cheap.

I mean, 1) The Apple adapter is $9 and 2) it's not just Apple that sells them. I'm sure they're sold in just as many places, if not more, than would sell a USB-C adapter.

Well, I said I would be okay with it given those conditions... Like any new tech there will always be a transition period where it's more expensive and less accessible, but there are ways to help mitigate that pain which I've seen vendors neglect in the past, so these concerns are not entirely unfounded.

I personally have not used an iPhone recently to have an opinion on how well Apple currently does it.

Plus the 7 came with one in a box, and it seems the 8 and X will also come with one in the box.

iPhone 7 comes with a pair of Lightning EarPhones and a Lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter.

Lightning jacks get accidently disconnected more often than 3.5 jacks when I move around. Also the Lightning connector wears out faster because of the stress a cable imposes on it. For instance, the Lightning connector on my iPhone 6S suffers from a defective contact already. The 3.5 headphone connector is fine, even when I use it much more.

Ah, good, found out from the person they got the phone through a third-party and didn't get either of those with it (and didn't know they should have).

Are those the "earpods" or whatever? Since they started making those, I have thought of them as absolute garbage. The sound quality is terrible, they don't block any external audio, they constantly fall out.

Maybe I just have stupid shaped ears or something, but I have always thought as apple-brand "earpods" as gilded shit.

Apologies for the rough language, I just cannot express strongly enough how much I despise those "earbuds."

No, these are the wired headphones with an updated Lightning connector.

> The sound quality is terrible, they don't block any external audio, they constantly fall out.

I think the first two problems stem from the third, namely, they don't fit your ears.

> Maybe I just have stupid shaped ears or something

Yes, that is one issue with these headphones is that they don't seem to fit in everyone's ears. I'm not sure if there's an easy fix for this.

I'm pretty sure some people sell little silicone covers for them, but I can't help but think that just buying headphones that fit would work much better.