Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by AndrewUnmuted on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:04PM
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No, the new standard is called "HDR10" [1] and it standardizes the use of BT.2020.
Can we not even trust people on HN to only speak to what they know about?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video#HDR10
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by jerf on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:12PM
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HDR10 is an instance of an HDR standard. All of them include higher gamut color except SL-HDR1, which is not itself an HDR standard but an encoding mechanism for embedding HDR in SDR.
So it appears all the "HDR" standards include higher gamut settings, making the simplification true enough for me to call it correct.
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by jsjohnst on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:21PM
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> Can we not even trust people on HN to only speak to what they know about?
Not any more than we can trust the old curmudgeons to not beat their knowledge into others by force I guess.
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by AndrewUnmuted on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:32PM
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I'm not an old curmudgeon - I am a young guy who knows a lot about digital media technologies and their underlying principles.
Don't trivialize my specialized knowledge by saying I'm old. The only reason you can watch anything on youtube today is because people like me cared about standards and best practices -- and most importantly, cared about being right about things.
Typical "break stuff, stop reading books" mentality of engineers my age. It's sad.
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by jsjohnst on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:44PM
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"Old curmudgeon" has nothing to do with age, but attitude. You might be young, but doesn't mean you don't have a "get off my lawn" attitude throughout this thread.
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by tomc1985 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:12PM
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That matters why?
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by tomc1985 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:12PM
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More often than not the old curmudgeons are right, young shits just don't want to accept it
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by jsjohnst on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:16PM
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I agree completely and am often called a curmudgeon myself. That doesn't mean the attitude isn't off putting to others, even when I myself am doing it.
Re:Apple TV 4K brings home the magic of cinema with 4K and HDR
by tomc1985 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @04:22PM
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What's wrong with being off-putting? Why do so many seem to want to embrace this disgusting care-bear idea of discourse? A discussion isn't lively without at least one provocateur.
It is true that these systems ship with fake-o postprocessing to take conventional content and smear them into these new colors, but that's a stopgap, and you aren't actually obligated to use them, you know. Just like TVs tend to ship in what I call "claw your eyes out mode" for display, but it's the work of just a few seconds to turn them back to something sane for any decent quality panel. (There are certainly panels that have no decent quality setting, no matter how much you fiddle; if you care, do some research. I do and did.)
Per what I see of your other comment, whether you like it or not, there are standards being called "HDR" that includes true expanded gamut support: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video#Stand...