Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by ricardobeat on Monday September 11, 2017 @07:19PM
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To answer your first question: a lot. Apple makes all your data locally encrypted by default, in Messages, Siri, iCloud, Maps, etc - they don't have the key to access it. See more at https://www.apple.com/lae/privacy/approach-to-privacy/
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by lern_too_spel on Monday September 11, 2017 @07:34PM
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All of a user's device data is encrypted by default on Android as well. In this respect, they are no different.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by ricardobeat on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:47AM
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The difference is that Google owns the keys that encrypt your files. Services like GDrive, GMail, Google Photos, Assistant, all depend on processing your data in the cloud. Apple does all of that locally (because they can't access any of it otherwise), trading some scalability and sophistication for privacy.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by lern_too_spel on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @12:33PM
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We were discussing data stored on the device. Just like Apple, Google does not have the keys to decrypt the data on the device. And just like Google, Apple has the keys to decrypt the data in their equivalents to the GDrive, Gmail, and Google Photos cloud services for web access. The only difference is that Apple's services are significantly less useful.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by eridius on Monday September 11, 2017 @07:22PM
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> What data does Google collect that Apple doesn't collect?
I don't know what Google collects, but the simple answer to this is "virtually everything". Apple collects very little data from their users and does everything they possibly can on-device (and the stuff that requires the cloud is either encrypted or heavily anonymized). Nearly all data that Google collects, Apple doesn't.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by vacri on Monday September 11, 2017 @08:06PM
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On the other hand, Android services everyone, whereas Apple tells the developing world to fuck off. Apple's privacy is only for the social elite who can afford their expensive toys, and they're not interested in providing service on a global scale.
Let's not get too hippy-feelgood about Apple's intentions regarding its users here.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by komali2 on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @01:23PM
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Well hold on dude, are you arguing that it's not Apple's right to charge money for quality / service?
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by adventured on Monday September 11, 2017 @07:13PM
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In the first part, you're setting up a premise that nobody here can or will answer publicly even if they have the knowledge of the exact information collected by either company. That gives you a free run at the second part without anything supporting it.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by lern_too_spel on Monday September 11, 2017 @07:35PM
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The information they collect is in their OSes' respective privacy policies. I've looked at them. They are pretty much exactly the same.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by LeoNatan25 on Monday September 11, 2017 @08:19PM
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You must have looked at the privacy policies but not read them.
Re:Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your dev...
by lern_too_spel on Monday September 11, 2017 @10:46PM
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You and GGP are the ones making ridiculous claims without evidence (that the data the OSes collect are unknowable instead of outlined in a privacy policy and that Android collects more data than iOS out of the box).
Your comment looks like trolling. We were discussing a feature to prevent others from backing up your device.