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Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by EGreg on Sunday September 10, 2017 @03:00PM (#15213701)
That last one may have a great deal to do with it.

As people live longer and safer lives, they can afford to have children later. And child mortality has been seriously reduced, so the children they have are comparable to thise among people from previous centuries who had many children younger.

Having children takes a toll on an organism, and having many children takes a larger toll, presumably. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a correlation between lifespan and number of children, among women.

So - people live longer and have children later. The children grow up richer and bigger and in turn have children later, as well.

I bet there is a correlation between age of having children and lifespan.

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by glenstein on Sunday September 10, 2017 @03:32PM (#15213875)
I definitely think postponing reproduction would coincide with longevity, but for a completely different/same-but-differently-stated reason. Evolution doesn't seem to care very much about the survival of an organism once they've successfully reproduced an optimal number of offspring, except to the extent that the organism can see to the well-being of offspring.

It stands to reason that postponing reproduction for as long as reasonably possible would contribute to selection for longevity. From evolution's perspective, you have to survive at least that long, or else you're not good for anything. If humanity collectively decides to postpone having children, evolution may begrudgingly allocate more of its resources toward the welfare of individuals, rather than viewing our early deaths as an acceptable loss in a cold utilitarian calculation about long-term gene proliferation.

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Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by ForRealsies on Monday September 11, 2017 @11:03AM (#15219012)
What about the increase in defects/problems with women having children in their mid-late 30s? And older father's sperm containing more mutations https://www.nature.com/news/fathers-bequeath-more-mutations-...
Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by glenstein on Monday September 11, 2017 @03:23PM (#15221442)
You are right that if this were attempted on day one by banning pregnancies by everyone except thirty-somethings, it would be a non-starter, because of the many unsolved health issues with pregnancies at that age. It wouldn't work if we put all the eggs in that basket. The strategy would be to gradually expand the range of sustainable, healthy ages to have pregnancies, so that the outer extremes eventually become part of the "heartland" range of sustainable pregnancies.

You could imagine a graph showing the percentage of pregnancies that occur at each age. The strategy would be to gradually move the percentages over time so that some percentage of sixteen year old pregnancies get shifted over into seventeen year old pregnancies, some seventeen year old pregnancies become eighteen year old pregnancies, and so on.

The goal is that, over time, there is escalating pressure to solve health problems that occur at later ages, problems that evolution currently has little incentive to address.

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by EGreg on Sunday September 10, 2017 @04:40PM (#15214215)
Very interesting! I find this kind of line very exciting.

But dows that mean some sort of Lamarckian evolution is taking place after all?

Sexy son hypothesis is also similar. Is it related?

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by astura on Monday September 11, 2017 @11:27AM (#15219219)
>I bet there is a correlation between age of having children and lifespan.

There is (at least for women).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270889/

> A significant association for later maternal age was found whereby women who had their last child beyond the age of 33 years had twice the odds of survival to the top 5th percentile of survival of their birth cohorts compared to women who had their last child by age 29 (OR=2.08, 95%CI 1.13; 3.92 for age between 33 and 37 years and OR=1.92, 95% CI 1.03; 3.68 for older age).

It's important to know though that delaying childbirth among women is associated with all sorts of other "healthy" factors like high education, high income, stable marriage, etc.

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by thrownblown on Sunday September 10, 2017 @04:37PM (#15214208)
mothers, even mothers who don't carry all the way to birth, get fetal cells, very similar to stem cells, that protect and repair their mothers, but can also trigger autoimmune conditions like lupus, or rheumatoid arthritis.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/205334-fetal-consequences/

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by EGreg on Sunday September 10, 2017 @04:45PM (#15214244)
Apparently I was wrong - according to this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16510865/

But this study is contradicted by many studies

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/having-sons-can-s...

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by thrownblown on Sunday September 10, 2017 @04:50PM (#15214261)
the radiolab is from 2012, and i'm sure they've learned a lot since then, but they do mention that there are a lot of factors (sex of children, number of children, number of fathers) that correlate with both good and bad effects of the fetal cells.
Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by EGreg on Sunday September 10, 2017 @06:36PM (#15214666)
So which is it?

Do children at 20-30 increase or decrease life span?

Obviously people who live longer may have more children, especially the men. I am talking about the other way.

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by thrownblown on Monday September 11, 2017 @03:33AM (#15216699)
The simple answer is its complicated. Having a child is stressful on the organism, but there are ultimately 2 types of stress eustress and distress.

Sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re:Massive genetic study shows how humans are evolving by tomerbd on Sunday September 10, 2017 @03:01PM (#15213711)
there is i tell you ;) at least 20 years less off your life.