Re:Equifax hackers demand $2.6m ransom
by nodesocket on Friday September 08, 2017 @07:38PM
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> That shade is a reference to the Equifax execs who sold around $1.8 mil in company stock after Equifax discovered the breach — but before it alerted the public.
According to CNBC, this is false information. The insiders who sold claimed to be unaware of the breach at the time of the sale and also the sale was scheduled beforehand.
Re:Equifax hackers demand $2.6m ransom
by nodesocket on Friday September 08, 2017 @07:47PM
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Never pay ransoms. There is a great book "American Kingpin: The epic hunt for the criminal mastermind behind the silk road". In it, Ross Ulbricht said every time they paid hackers, they came back increasing the attacks and demands.
"If you give a mouse a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk. When you give him the milk, he'll probably ask you for a straw. When he's finished, he'll ask you for a napkin."
Re:Equifax hackers demand $2.6m ransom
by fapjacks on Saturday September 09, 2017 @10:40AM
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The FBI's Tor exploit works on visitors to a Tor hidden service, but doesn't work to identify operators of a Tor hidden service. However it is very easy to misconfigure a Tor hidden service and have it leak identifying information.
Re:Equifax hackers demand $2.6m ransom
by subru on Friday September 08, 2017 @10:52PM
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Paying out anonymous folks that demand ransom of copyable data is futile. There won't be incentive to not leverage the data even if the ransom were to be paid.
The reality is that BTC helps to facilitate various criminal behavior, some of which would not exist otherwise.
If 4100 were to break today, there would be greatly increased probability of accelerated downside. This is deserved since BTC is leveraged by criminals such as in this case. Don't be surprised if this ends up becoming the case as a form of public penalization of such criminal behavior.
Re:Equifax hackers demand $2.6m ransom
by jjeaff on Saturday September 09, 2017 @01:47AM
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Imo, assuming the hackers are acting logically, the payment of the random will be followed up by another request for more money or the sale of said data on the black market.
Since they are anonymous, there is no logical reason to keep their word. It's not like they have a reputation to keep up.
Re:Equifax hackers demand $2.6m ransom
by rrobukef on Saturday September 09, 2017 @02:04AM
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It's an asymmetrical game of tit-for-tat. If the hackers don't keep their word often enough the companies won't play the game again. Pay regardless of the hackers keeping their word and you make yourself vulnerable.
According to CNBC, this is false information. The insiders who sold claimed to be unaware of the breach at the time of the sale and also the sale was scheduled beforehand.
There's no way a breach like that is discovered and the upper management/execs aren't notified.
They are going to try and push hard to get that narrative in people's heads. We'll know the truth when it gets investigated.
Though suppose this group does have the actual data and does get the ransom. What is to stop them from holding onto it to milk it for all it's worth?
"If you give a mouse a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk. When you give him the milk, he'll probably ask you for a straw. When he's finished, he'll ask you for a napkin."
If anything, posting the ransom increases the chances that the FBI can track them (since it's hosted on a Tor server)
The reality is that BTC helps to facilitate various criminal behavior, some of which would not exist otherwise.
If 4100 were to break today, there would be greatly increased probability of accelerated downside. This is deserved since BTC is leveraged by criminals such as in this case. Don't be surprised if this ends up becoming the case as a form of public penalization of such criminal behavior.
Since they are anonymous, there is no logical reason to keep their word. It's not like they have a reputation to keep up.