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Re:Opioid Use Could Explain 20% of the Drop in American Men ... by DanBC on Thursday September 07, 2017 @01:12PM (#15193809)
You've made a few mistakes in this post.

The first, and perhaps most important, is that you think opioids are a suitable treatment for long term pain. They aren't. There is little evidence of efficacy of opioids for treatment of long term pain. Your suggestion - that we treat pain using opioids - i) doesn't treat pain, and ii) creates addicts.

More information here: https://www.fpm.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-aware

> "live with the pain" treatment you get from Government run care where they refuse to provide pain killers unless you are screaming in pain

Quite clearly nonsense.

> The artificial limits

No, these are evidence based restrictions.

Re:Opioid Use Could Explain 20% of the Drop in American Men ... by syshum on Thursday September 07, 2017 @02:14PM (#15194378)
Umm, Number 1 in your link contradicts number 2, first they claim it is not helpful for long term relief, then go on to say it is helpful for long term relief.

Further in typical UK practice they claim it is not helpful but offer no alternative treatments, claiming it should be discontinued even if there are no alternative.

basically what I said "Suck it up buttercup" but they state it in a more PC and nanny government terminology

>Quite clearly nonsense.

hmmm

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Pain/Pages/Longtermpain.aspx

"You may also be referred for complementary therapy to see if that helps with the pain. You should be offered advice on how to better manage your pain on a day-to-day basis, such as by using self-help techniques."

Again, No pain Killer, just walk it off or deal with it. That is the UK policy on long term chronic Pain. Suck it up and learn to live with it.

>No, these are evidence based restrictions.

No infact they are not, not in the case of the DEA/US Drug Control Policy anyway

There is not a single drug control policy in the US that is "evidence based" most of is not even about the actual drugs, it is about power, control, money, and about 100 other things but not public safety or drugs

Re:Opioid Use Could Explain 20% of the Drop in American Men ... by DanBC on Thursday September 07, 2017 @04:08PM (#15195237)
> Further in typical UK practice they claim it is not helpful but offer no alternative treatments, claiming it should be discontinued even if there are no alternative.

Untrue.

https://www.nice.org.uk/search?q=pain