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Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by frik on Thursday September 07, 2017 @12:57AM (#15189234)
Can we get a 'British Gentleman' as actor for reboot of James Bond franchise?

like previously Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Pierce Brosnan

All the James Bond USP got lost in recent years - where is the humor, the British gentleman behavior, the spectacular but not unrealistic script, etc ? So is James Bond really about a blond short humorless brutallo with little charisma? I don't think so.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by moomin on Thursday September 07, 2017 @03:38AM (#15189800)
Something that I always feel the need to point out: Bond in the books is a British gent, Bond of the movies isn't and never has been. He's a member of the lower orders who passed. The villains are pretty much always onto him as not fitting, but he styles it out. Sean Connery being Scottish worked perfectly for this. Kingsman, not a bond movie but understanding the genre completely, makes the theme explicit.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by modeless on Thursday September 07, 2017 @01:48AM (#15189395)
Idris Elba is the only person I want to see as the next Bond.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by ablation on Thursday September 07, 2017 @02:50AM (#15189626)
100% agreed with this. He would be a superb choice.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by pamqzl on Thursday September 07, 2017 @03:47AM (#15189834)
Sure, as long as we can have a white Shaft.

Seriously though, Britishness (in the genetic sense) is a fundamental part of James Bond's character. He isn't just British by citizenship, he's emblematic of Britain.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by coob on Thursday September 07, 2017 @07:02AM (#15190637)
There's no such thing as 'Britishness in the genetic sense'.

Idris Elbra is as British as they come.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by rahoulb on Thursday September 07, 2017 @04:58AM (#15190103)
I disagree.

Firstly, maybe in the 60s, the idea of a black person being "British" would be scoffed at; today, with 3 or 4 generations of genetics here() and black people representing Britain at many levels, I don't think it would be a problem for most.

Secondly, 007 has always been an outsider and not a member of the Establishment - that's part of why he does things differently to the other 00s (although another commenter says that's not part of the books, only the films - I've not read them so can't say).

() ignoring the fact that there have been significant African populations in cities such as Liverpool and Bristol since Elizabethan times

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by croon on Thursday September 07, 2017 @04:14AM (#15189941)
And North America is about revering and being one with nature, respecting and worshiping Wakan Tanka.

Things change, evolve and adapt, both for good and bad. Idris Elba would be great.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by ablation on Friday September 08, 2017 @08:52AM (#15199764)
Not sure where to even start with this comment.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by _pmf_ on Thursday September 07, 2017 @02:07AM (#15189471)
Peter Dinklage would be my favorite.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by pkroll on Thursday September 07, 2017 @06:15AM (#15190409)
There's precedent, of a fashion: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200642
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by croon on Thursday September 07, 2017 @04:35AM (#15190014)
> where is [...] the spectacular but not unrealistic script, etc ?

It's much more realistic now, but that's part of the problem.

The Bond we remember is a remnant from the 60s (I know it's older), with that era of geopolitics, scifi (and sex-/racism), complete with razor frisbee hats, cyborgs, zero gravity laser battles, and a super villain dying through floating up to the ceiling and popping like a balloon.

I loved those movies too, and while I didn't like the direction at the time, GoldenEye was a perfect update to that genre (at the time). While I think Casino Royale was a great movie, it was not a great Bond movie.

I have yet to see the new one, but the first Kingsman movie is the best Bond movie since GoldenEye, by bringing the elements that make a Bond movie to modern filmmaking.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by dingaling on Thursday September 07, 2017 @05:16AM (#15190175)
> zero gravity laser battles

Oddly when I first saw the movie version of Moonraker that scene shattered my suspension of disbelief.

Up until that film most Bond gadgets had been reasonably believeable as achievable by a sufficiently funded organisation. But suddenly secret fleets of Shuttles, space stations and laser-equipped Space Marines? Nope.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by rodgerd on Thursday September 07, 2017 @01:15AM (#15189286)
Someone who's never read the books, I see - and, by citing Roger Moore as "unrealistic" inhabits a reality where surviving re-entry in a disintegrating space station is a thing!
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by NIL8 on Thursday September 07, 2017 @01:03AM (#15189249)
I agree. I enjoy the new ones, but they're missing exactly what you described. It's what made a James Bond movie unique.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by ajmurmann on Thursday September 07, 2017 @01:50AM (#15189402)
I'd love to see the humor come back. I think nobody would be better suited to do that than Quentin Tarantino. The only movie that would get me more excited than a Tarantino directed bond movie (ideally set during the cold war) would be a Lynch directed Lord of the Rings.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by pleaseGodNo on Thursday September 07, 2017 @02:29AM (#15189536)
Ugh, god. Not Tarantino. Not for a Bond movie. Jesus fucking christ. Anything but that.

I absolutely love more than 50% of Quentin Tarantino's movies, and place the truly great movies eye to eye with Stanley Kubrick movies.

But fuck no. Not James Bond. If that ever happened, Tarantino would transform himself into an even bigger douchebag and disappointment than Kevin Smith. It would be a modern pop culture tragedy.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by JetSpiegel on Thursday September 07, 2017 @05:02AM (#15190122)
You can see this today.

Kingsman is a Bond film as directed by Tarantino. It's about as awful as it seems.

Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by pkroll on Thursday September 07, 2017 @06:23AM (#15190443)
I'd watch Kingsman 10 times before I'd watch Quantum of Solace again. And I didn't hate Quantum of Solace: Kingsman is just much more fun.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by jentulman on Thursday September 07, 2017 @03:23AM (#15189736)
My bond dream team would be a screenplay/script by Charlie Higson and Mark Gatiss and directed by Edgar Wright.
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by rahoulb on Thursday September 07, 2017 @04:59AM (#15190105)
Of course, Charlie Higson has form there as well
Re:Apple, Amazon Join Race for James Bond Film Rights by mhb on Thursday September 07, 2017 @09:02AM (#15191413)