Re:The 'Self Drive' Act puts America on the road to reducing...
by akgerber on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @03:42PM
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The issue with San Diego is not the lack of infrastructure, but the land use— many businesses and offices are in unwalkable office park hellscapes that are designed to make driving easy to the exclusion of any other mode of transit.
Since public transit requires a walking trip at both ends, it will never be very popular in areas where one needs to take a dangerous mile-long walk across a sea of parking and high-speed arterials, instead of a quick jaunt through a lively neighborhood.
Re:The 'Self Drive' Act puts America on the road to reducing...
by chc on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @03:59PM
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That was exactly my point: A lot of the US is laid out in a way that is pessimal for mass transit — "hellscapes," as you put it — so investing in public transit infrastructure doesn't seem like enough to make a big difference. The problem isn't just a lack of investment, but also that mass transit isn't very well suited to America as it exists today. Any proposal to make public transit happen in America that doesn't address this seems pretty unrealistic to me.
Re:The 'Self Drive' Act puts America on the road to reducing...
by CalRobert on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @03:17PM
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San drego has a surprisingly good train system with the light rail and coaster. It's just sitting on one of the most ass-backwardsedly designed cities out there. I can take the trolley to Santee, but not the airport?? not south park or north park (the whistle stop on thirtieth is named for the steetcar stop it used to be!!!!)? not Balboa park? It's a disaster of a city and the trolley deserves better.
Re:The 'Self Drive' Act puts America on the road to reducing...
by oftenwrong on Thursday September 07, 2017 @12:10PM
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America is low density because it provides incentives for low density living. The solution, in short, is to remove those incentives. Once the costs of current land use patterns are undistorted, society will adjust, and land use will intensify.
https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/8/15/financing-subu...
https://granolashotgun.com/2016/08/31/a-thousand-hidden-subs...
https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/8/a-utah-republic...
https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/18/highway-spendi...
Re:The 'Self Drive' Act puts America on the road to reducing...
by adrianN on Thursday September 07, 2017 @12:28AM
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I guess investment in public transit has to go hand in hand with saner zoning laws and measures to reduce sprawl. It's certainly not an over-night solution, but few things in city planning are.
So when I hear "invest in public transit infrastructure," I feel like it isn't a concrete enough suggestion. Does it actually mean tear down most of America and replace it with a country where mass transit is practical, or what? I'd love never to have to drive again, but merely investing in public transit demonstrably isn't enough.