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Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by sctb on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @04:48PM (#15178984)
We've updated the title from “Dietary sugars, not lipids, drive hypothalamic inflammation”, which sort of plainly doesn't follow the conclusions of the study.
Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by chrischen on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @06:12PM (#15179535)
The study concluded that low carbohydrate, high fat diets did not cause inflammation, whereas high carbohydrate, high fat diets did.

Since they only tested LCHF and HCHF, the High fat part is the control, leading to the logical conclusion that the high carb part is responsible.

The new title is probably a bit misleading since they didn’t test Low carb low fat, so you can’t conclude that it’s the combination of HCHF, at least not with this study.

That seems consistent with the original title that sugars cause inflammation, no?

Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by biomcgary on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @06:42PM (#15179692)
The authors did test the combination. HC or HF alone leads to less inflammation than HCHF. Note that the control diet for all of the experiments is chow, which is HCLF.
Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by chrischen on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @07:21PM (#15179889)
Hmm it’s odd. They did feed them chow, but the chow diet was significantly fewer calories than the HCHF or LCHF diets so it can’t really be compared with them. In fact they didn’t control for calorie intake so for all it’s known the higher calorie consumption of HCHF could be the cause.

According to the results section they also did not evaluate the hyperthalmic microglial activities of the Chow (HCLF) diet so it’s unknown from the paper if If the high carb only diet had detrimental results.

Wish I could ask the authors about these holes.

Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by biomcgary on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @07:50PM (#15180034)
I agree with your concerns. I am also concerned that the chow diet (HCLF) does not provide the same type of carbs (wheat and corn) as the other diets tested (sucrose or starch).
Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by sctb on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @07:24PM (#15179901)
I can't weigh in on the study design, but since the actual conclusion is much more conservative, we've gone with a representative phrase from it:

> Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar, but not the overconsumption of fat per se, leads to excessive CML production in hypothalamic neurons, which, in turn, stimulates hypothalamic inflammatory responses such as microgliosis and eventually leads to neuronal dysfunction in the control of energy metabolism.

Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by AstralStorm on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @03:27AM (#15181823)
You missed the critical part: "in rats".
Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by mlloyd on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @06:40PM (#15179683)
I think the confusion just over this title is a good illustration of the existing state of nutritional science.

We've been so poisoned by bad science that it's hard to come to a consensus on anything.

Re:Combined overconsumption of fat and sugar leads to hypoth... by dtawfik1 on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @04:52PM (#15179018)
Yes, that's more accurate title of the piece.