Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual env manager for Python

Re:Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual e... by Flimm on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:28AM (#15174847)

The README.rst documents the `egg` subcommand like this:

> Creates a new Python project. Think of an "egg" as a new idea.

How does this differ from the egg distribution format [1] introduced by setuptools, which wheel aims to replace? If it's completely different, couldn't a distinct term be used? Python packaging is confusing enough as it is!

[1] - https://packaging.python.org/glossary/#term-egg

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Re:Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual e... by PrimHelios on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:23AM (#15175455)

From what I can tell, the egg subcommand doesn't create any kind of egg file, just creates a new project.

But I agree. Creating a new distinct keyword for that command (why not just `hatch new my-app`?) would be far better. I've tried to get into Python packaging, and it's the biggest PITA I've dealt with as a dev.

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Re:Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual e... by pmoriarty on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @02:29PM (#15177877)

I can recommend this great video from PyCon 2017 which demystifies a lot of Python's packaging process: [1]

But it's still a mess only Rube Goldberg could love.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOH-h-EKKac

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Re:Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual e... by ofek on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:26PM (#15176684)

0.4.0 changed the name from `egg` to `new` https://github.com/ofek/hatch/commit/5649b3f6c452b670d919fae...

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Re:Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual e... by Flimm on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:52PM (#15176939)

Thanks ofek, seemingly small things like this make a huge difference.

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Re:Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual e... by ofek on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:56PM (#15176979)

I truly appreciate the feedback :)

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Re:Show HN: Hatch – A modern project, package, and virtual e... by dharness on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:22AM (#15175446)

I agree. It is definitely a completely different thing and even though 'egg' is a cool word I wish it was just 'hatch create my-app'

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