Time for Makefiles to Make a Comeback

Re:Time for Makefiles to Make a Comeback by Chris2048 on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:19AM (#15174778)

You say the Pythonistas refused to use Gradle, but it also seems the JVM peeps refused to let go of it?

Isn't that the problem? Isn't Make more general than Gradle? If the project was primarily JVM, why couldn't the Pythonistas be forced to use whatever build system was mandated?

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Re:Time for Makefiles to Make a Comeback by meddlepal on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @09:38AM (#15174948)

You'd have to reinvent a lot of wheels to replicate what Gradle (or Maven) does. For example dependency management, env setup and packaging. It would be similar to asking a Python developer to give up pip, setup/disttools and maybe virtualenv. In the end you want productive devs. Stripping away the tools they are productive with is counterproductive.

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Re:Time for Makefiles to Make a Comeback by Chris2048 on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:09AM (#15175303)

But surely these are targets for make?

e.g a pip target that builds a python dep folder. You can do the same for Java with Apache Ivy.

Is Gradle not a make like system with a lot of JVM-specific functionality built in?

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