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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by goatlover on Saturday September 02, 2017 @07:41PM (#15158864)
Nature had a planet and several billion years. Of course the goal wasn't AGI, it was survival, and horseshoe crabs have done a pretty good job of that. So have beatles, with their large number of species. How would you select for only AGI? It would be like selecting for only the greatest eyes (Mantis shrimp), but doing it over the entire tree of life. You still need a way to narrow down to the best eyes.
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by lgas on Sunday September 03, 2017 @01:48AM (#15159895)
Survival is not a goal, it's just the score keeping system.
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by akvadrako on Sunday September 03, 2017 @06:04AM (#15160612)
What, oh wise one, is the goal?
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by LukaEn on Sunday September 03, 2017 @01:39PM (#15162699)
Nothing. Evoultion came about randomly, not by intent, so it has no goal.
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by visarga on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:29AM (#15172531)
> Nothing. Evolution came about randomly, not by intent, so it has no goal.

Evolution created a goal from nothing, which is self-replication. It works on many levels - self replicating DNA, self replicating cells, self replicating ideas (memes), self replicating ecosystem, even the economy has become a self replicator.

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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by goatlover on Sunday September 03, 2017 @06:05PM (#15164202)
But if the goal is to use evolution as model for generating AGI, then the problem is narrowing down all the surviving species to the ones that result in AGI, as opposed to a thousand other successful traits.
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by akvadrako on Sunday September 03, 2017 @06:14PM (#15164251)
That's pretty meaningless - in that case the word goal doesn't have a meaning because everything is just as random as evolution, which isn't very random but whatever.
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by visarga on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @12:31AM (#15172544)
Evolution is not random. It requires self replication in order to transmit and evolve genes. Everything else is much more random.
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by posterboy on Monday September 04, 2017 @01:35AM (#15165941)
Reduction of entropy. Which seems quite the opposite of growth. However effectively, say energy per volume, it allows for growth.
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Re:Where will artificial general intelligence come from? by lgas on Sunday September 03, 2017 @01:52PM (#15162768)
^
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