Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by qaq on Friday September 01, 2017 @08:44AM
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? Total misinformation. As applicable to Ukraine salaries are
US salary - US tax -(20-30)% take into account cost of living and special tax treatment (3-4%). Workday is normal workday and not some unknown number of hours offices are way nicer then in US minus the usual suspects (Google FB etc.). You get way more time off plus there are like 3X official holidays in Ukraine. Running recruiting biz. on the side we had real trouble finding people for senior java dev. remote product work 60K/year (tax rate 3%) + all the usual benefits good candidates wanted 70K.
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Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by qaq on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:25PM
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Another cool thing about Ukrainian market due to competition interview to job offer is generally few days often offer is made on the spot and you will have in person interview most often same week you applied. Another cool feature all recruiters have bonus structure so they created informal skype channel where they "trade" candidates and then split bonuses. So even if you were not a good fit for a particular position or company their recruiters will often find you an appropriate position in a different company :)
Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by expertentipp on Friday September 01, 2017 @11:19AM
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> As applicable to Ukraine salaries are US salary
> remote product work 60K/year
60k USD gross anually in Ukraine? No. Sorry, but it doesn't exist. An unicorn salary, dozen of those lucky perhaps have.
Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by qaq on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:50PM
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To reiterate we had trouble hiring at that rate good senior Java engineers. Not sure what you are basing your opinion on I lived and worked there for over 10 years including running my own company and working for other companies. I also know good number of founders/owners of the top outsourcing outfits.
Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by expertentipp on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:06PM
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> good senior Java engineers
duh! they left for Germany
Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by qaq on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:12PM
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Some did, but they did not win as far as after tax $, it's mostly for better infrastructure and security. At the time we were trying to fill the positions a large UK based company closed down dev. office in Ukraine they had 120 dev's about 40 were senior scala/java within 1.5 weeks only one was without a new job he didn't take 60K offer either as he got a better competing offer.
Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by qaq on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:18PM
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Compensation is also heavily tied to the stack
Java & C# -highest (outside of niche things)
Ruby
Python
PHP
Good Java middle can make more then good senior PHP
Re:U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs
by expertentipp on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:47PM
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"Java pays the most" is the curse of the industry. That's why we have plenty of these dull corporate Java projects possible to setup only in Eclipse and people neurotically sticking to them with a hope for this fat salary.