Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by bonqis on Friday September 01, 2017 @02:44AM
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I co-founded Flattr and one of the things we learned is that even a one-click is to much effort. So we now have a zero-click solution that measures attention and visits in your browser locally (as Archon810 wrote.) and then your monthly subscription is distributed based on that. Happy to answer anything and or give an invite.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by DamonHD on Friday September 01, 2017 @03:22AM
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Would like to chat further. As CTO in a previous "fintech" start-up I tried to make something like that work: a tiny-pay-per-view is indeed something like the right goal for funding content.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by bonqis on Friday September 01, 2017 @03:45AM
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Sure, drop me an mail at linus at flattr
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by DamonHD on Friday September 01, 2017 @04:00AM
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Done.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by mdpopescu on Friday September 01, 2017 @05:20AM
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Do you generate reports with how much was spent on each site? If I were using such a browser / add-on, that would make for an interesting reading at least once in a while.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by bonqis on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:16AM
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Yes, everything flattred is visible for you on your dashboard.
But not all data or everything you visited etc, as that is a to high of a privacy invasion.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by bumblebritches5 on Friday September 01, 2017 @07:25PM
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How the hell does that work? you just automatically spend your clients money for them without even asking? Sounds shady af
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by arich on Thursday August 31, 2017 @11:39PM
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I've never liked those things that popped up but, as I was reading I thought I'd definitely go for it if I had something like a digital wallet in the browser that I could preload with a balance and simply use to pay for websites like that with one click.
Doing a quick google search hasn't shown anything like that. Does anyone know if a browser extension or something like this already exists?
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by FridgeSeal on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:26AM
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Seems like that's the idea behind the Brave browser [0].
If I could have some tool that I could put funds into and then frictionlessly pay publishers as I read articles (preferably in a way that didn't let my spending habits be uniquely tracked everywhere) then I would sign up in a heartbeat: I do want to support content producers, don't really want to sign up for n different accounts to do so.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by archon810 on Friday September 01, 2017 @02:13AM
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Flattr.com is about to relaunch with something like that. You set an allotment for the month, then Flattr sites using their extension, and at the end of the month, they get the share of your allotment, based on how much you visited them.
I've already signed up both our sites, just waiting for them to relaunch.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by UncleMeat on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:16AM
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This has existed in multiple forms for years. Small micropayments instead of ad views. I believe Google has this feature right now if you opt-in.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by bonqis on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:35AM
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Not really, Flattr distributes your subscription automatically between the content and sites you engage with. Without the need of user interaction.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by peteretep on Friday September 01, 2017 @02:06AM
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I think Google would be just as happy owning a large share of the micropayments industry as they are owning a large share of ad inventory.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by hasenj on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:06AM
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I really think for this to work well, the payment system needs to be tightly integrated into the browser, something like Steam.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by jasonkostempski on Thursday August 31, 2017 @11:56PM
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"Now that Amazon's one-click checkout patent has expired this is actually legally viable."
It would require you to add your credit card to every site that wants it at least once. It wouldn't be very convenient and people shouldn't be giving out CC info on the internet that freely.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by mrep on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:26AM
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An aggregate service would probably have to service those transactions as credit card usually have $0.30 fee's per transaction so you'd probably need to aggregate all fees to mitigate the minimum charges.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by mdpopescu on Friday September 01, 2017 @05:18AM
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The problem changes from "tiny amount" to "I have to make yet another decision". Decision fatigue is a thing.
Something like bonqis mentions where the amount of attention I give to each page is automatically measured would be much better.
Now that Amazon's one-click checkout patent has expired this is actually legally viable.
But it won't happen until Chrome is overturned by a new browser because Google will never let such a model succeed :(
It's possible Firefox may successfully do the "phoenix re-viral" thing, in spite of the fact that it would be a literal miracle.