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Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by jartelt on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:39PM (#15144176)
The book Dark Money by Jane Mayer tells much of the backstory of how many of these think tanks got started. Most of them were funded by rich folks, mostly far right or libertarian (e.g. Kochs brothers), for one reason: to make the rich folks' far right, libertarian views seem moderate and mainstream. The idea was to sponsor a think tank that looked moderate and unbiased, but then to fill it up handpicked people who were basically paid to try to "prove" that the Koch brothers ideas are good. Of course both sides do this now, but the libertarian and far right folks have done it the best.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by gbacon on Thursday August 31, 2017 @10:37PM (#15145707)
Left and right are flavors of authoritarianism. Far right and libertarian are not synonymous.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by kiliantics on Friday September 01, 2017 @09:23AM (#15148128)
You have no idea what you're talking about, nor do the people that responded to you it seems. Authoritarianism is completely orthogonal to the "left-right" axis of political philosophy.

There is a libertarian left (anarchism) and libertarian right (Ayn Rand style American libertarianism), as well as authoritarian left (marxist-leninist style socialism) and authoritarian right (fascism).

politicalcompass.org

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by dang on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:00PM (#15150274)
> You have no idea what you're talking about

Please don't post like this, no matter how wrong someone else is. It poisons the commons and breaks the site rules.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by gbacon on Friday September 01, 2017 @10:03AM (#15148372)
I am just a random know-nothing Internet guy. Leonard E. Read, who started the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE), has better credentials.

“Left” and “right” are each descriptive of authoritarian positions. Liberty has no horizontal relationship to authoritarianism. Libertarianism’s relationship to authoritarianism is vertical; it is up from the muck of men enslaving man. But, let’s begin at the beginning …

Source: “Neither Left Nor Right,” https://fee.org/articles/neither-left-nor-right/

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by kiliantics on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:06PM (#15150335)
The kind of libertarianism the FEE think tank advocates for is what I would call right-libertarianism. And it's kind of an oxymoron because there is still a need for authority. How do you assert anyone's claim to private property without a centralised authority? The original libertarianism, which is a strain of socialist political philosophy, calls for decentralised authority and therefore also the end of the private ownership of property.

Of course, this FEE think tank, along with all the other "Libertarian" think tanks, are funded by the likes of the Koch brothers in an effort to legitimise the deregulation of their industries. There is no requirement for it to make any logical sense, just to appear as if it does so that legislation can have some semblance of an intellectual backing.

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by gbacon on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:27PM (#15150546)
Please apply the principle of charity[0], friend.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by coliveira on Thursday August 31, 2017 @11:00PM (#15145790)
And this itself is a piece of propaganda spread by libertarian think tanks.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by alphapapa on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:39AM (#15146165)
Left and right are degrees of authoritarianism, e.g. libertarian is far right, and nazism and communism are far left. Nazism and communism would be flavors of authoritarianism.
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Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by tptacek on Thursday August 31, 2017 @06:47PM (#15144636)
The comment you replied to wasn't great, but you took what was worst about it and dialed it up to 11.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by norikki on Thursday August 31, 2017 @07:31PM (#15144907)
I agree. Soros and the Koch bros are two sides of the same coin. They both advocate pro-globalization policies, Soros the social aspects, and Koch the economic aspects. It's clear that globalism has massively benefitted the ultra-wealthy at the expense of the lower and middle class, and one way they justify the madness is by funding these propaganda organizations.

What bugs me is how often reports from "Think Tanks" and NGOs are uncritically reported as news by the media without disclosing their donors.

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by jacobolus on Thursday August 31, 2017 @08:25PM (#15145198)
Nancy Pelosi is a mainstream center-left Democrat who just happens to be a woman (!) from San Francisco (!) in a position of power, which gets some people in a tizzy. Most of the outrage about whatever it is she’s saying or doing this week is manufactured by a propaganda machine.

The Koch Brothers, by contrast, have a self-serving radical fringe ideology and no public accountability whatsoever, but because they are billionaires who have organized with other billionaires, can spend huge amounts of money in a subversive campaign to make their fringe ideas seem respectable.

Have you ever heard Limbaugh’s show? My grandfather once was a reasonable, competent, practical mainstream Republican (worked in the White House during the Nixon and Ford administrations), but 20 years of listening to Limbaugh and later Fox News turned him into a ranting conspiracy theorist.