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Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by hota_mazi on Thursday August 31, 2017 @04:44PM (#15143769)
> Football is such an intrinsically contact sport that I don't think a safer game would even be recognizable.

And yet, rubgy and Australian football have just as much contact and do not suffer from an endemic injury problem.

Maybe something related to the padding?

Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by criddell on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:28PM (#15144102)
A quick Googling of that suggests otherwise:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/one-seaso...

Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by vacri on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:31PM (#15144117)
Aussie Rules has nowhere near as much contact as gridiron, and the kind of contact it has is rarely as full-on as in gridiron. There's no real contact in aussie rules if you're not on the ball, whereas every play in gridiron, more than half the players are slamming into each other, regardless of what's happening.

Most of the contact in aussie rules is tackling from behind, whereas in gridiron on every play you have around nine guys smashing into each other just as the quarterback receives the ball... and then all the additional contact depending on the play, including tackling like in aussie rules.

Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by dizzystar on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:09PM (#15143945)
Here's a bit where they measured the force of rugby -vs- football tackles. Football is 3 times harder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7tGY-VDx3o

Don't have much commentary on the subject and just wanted to share the vid. I'd only think that a difference like that can't really be resolved to padding.

Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by pbhjpbhj on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:53PM (#15144282)
It's a pretty unfair comparison, though I'd expect it's largely representative.

A rugby union player has to run around the pitch for 2 bouts of 40 minutes [about 40 minutes of 'ball in play' time]. According to this article - https://qz.com/150577/an-average-nfl-game-more-than-100-comm... - the average NFL match is 11 minutes of action, in [average] 4s bursts, over a 3+ hour period. Many NFL positions can optimise for muscle mass without worrying about stamina and sustained speed.

FWIW the measured tackle and at least one footage tackle [8mins 26s] in your linked video - https://youtu.be/TSc_Gxq1two - look illegal to me, lifting a player and pushing them down with head/shoulders first towards the ground (spearing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear_tackle) is a red-card offence.

Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by forapurpose on Thursday August 31, 2017 @06:43PM (#15144599)
> Many NFL positions can optimise for muscle mass without worrying about stamina and sustained speed.

Not just mass. What I often hear NFL athletes and trainers talk about maximizing "explosion" in their movements.

Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by christophilus on Thursday August 31, 2017 @11:44PM (#15145966)
I'd say this is not true. The doctor from the movie "Concussion" said that Rugby, most martial arts, and lacrosse are all sports that need massive modification for those under 18. Adults can make their own decisions, he said, but these sports are demonstrably bad for brain-safety.
Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by Already__Taken on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:16PM (#15144006)
Rubgy has much less contact than american football. You can't just tackle people without the ball.
Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by Klinky on Friday September 01, 2017 @12:11AM (#15146062)
You're also not allowed to tackle a player without the ball in American football. You're allowed to block, but when two players come together, especially at the snap, it can be a violent collision.
Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by duncan_bayne on Thursday August 31, 2017 @07:05PM (#15144740)
Here in Melbourne there was a news article recently about some AFL players who got high on drugs and alcohol and set a dwarf alight.

It may be harder to detect chronic brain trauma in that population.

Re:ESPN Football Analyst Walks Away, Disturbed by Brain Trau... by somecontext on Thursday August 31, 2017 @09:06PM (#15145366)
For some context, here is an article from the aftermath of that incident: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/sep/03/afl-st-kilda-d...