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Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by cwyers on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:25PM (#15143101)
> there isn't a whole lot of money to be made for corporations lowering the cost of healtcare.

I don't know if that's true. There are a lot of companies that would save money if healthcare was cheaper -- pretty much every company in America is a health-care consumer. It's just that benefits are diffuse and the downsides of lower-cost health care are concentrated.

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by sbov on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:18PM (#15144016)
I think large companies love it the way it is. Healthcare being so tightly bound to employment makes it more difficult for employees to leave, which probably has a dampening affect on salaries. I haven't had to deal with it in a while, but getting healthcare for a small company ~10 years ago was a nightmare.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by icelancer on Thursday August 31, 2017 @08:26PM (#15145204)
It wasn't too bad for us. We provide gold level healthcare for our employees (~20 FTEs). Companies like Zenefits (yes yes I know) and others have made it a lot simpler to get started.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by azinman2 on Friday September 01, 2017 @01:51AM (#15146432)
Guessing you’re a tech company employing educated young single (low risk) workers?

Things look very different in other industries... not everyone gets the same price...

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by icelancer on Friday September 01, 2017 @03:56AM (#15146881)
>>tech company

Nope.

>>not everyone gets the same price

I don't care about the price. I pay for insurance for my employees because it is the right thing to do.

The comment I am referring to is the nightmare of the setup, not the cost to me for providing the healthcare. And many middleware insurance navigators make it easy to provide it (at least for me).

As far as how much it costs me, whatever.

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by aaronblohowiak on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:34PM (#15143180)
large firms would lose talent to smaller firms.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by digikata on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:39PM (#15143226)
Then the smaller firms could be acquired. As it is, because of the slowing new-company generation, large firms have been getting fewer and fewer options. Small firms can take risks to create new products and processes which can then be acquired and taken up and expanded by large companies. Generally its much more difficult for a large company to do that creation part in-house. So insufficient small firms end up affecting the large-firm capability in the end.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by SimbaOnSteroids on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:52PM (#15143327)
Unfortunately this type of long term benefit for the large corporation doesn't affect the next quarterly report and is ignored in favor of more short term gains.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by digikata on Thursday August 31, 2017 @06:58PM (#15144695)
Productivity gains seem to be dropping and one theory is that companies are getting larger, but aren't able to pickup efficiency/new value generation boosts from acquisitions like they once were able to (at an economy wide scale, not talking about the acquisitions of any specific company or even sectors here). It is difficult to make any certain conclusions here though. But if true, they will have to care sooner or later.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by walshemj on Thursday August 31, 2017 @04:27PM (#15143629)
Minor compared to the cost of funding health care
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by jjeaff on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:41PM (#15143242)
Exactly. Huge corporations would LOVE to push their health insurance costs to the taxpayers.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by criley2 on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:45PM (#15143274)
Maybe, but they LOVE the huge competitive advantage it gives them over smaller and more nimble firms nipping at their market share, because it's very onerous for small businesses to competitively offer health benefits.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by frandroid on Thursday August 31, 2017 @05:16PM (#15144004)
I think they're afraid some of the cost would be dumped onto them.
Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by spinlock on Thursday August 31, 2017 @08:00PM (#15145066)
I don't know about that. If your employer were to pay you more and you were to use your salary to buy health insurance, you'd be bumped into a higher tax bracket and you'd be using post tax money to buy the insurance.

It's not a long term benefit because the government should be able to lower taxes given the increased revenue, but you'd never look past the short term (and the government would never lower taxes).

Re:Criticizing Google got me fired by foota on Thursday August 31, 2017 @04:36PM (#15143701)
Isn't YCs research arm looking into healthcare?