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Re:What We Get Wrong About Technology by dEnigma on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @07:34AM (#15131247)
Deep L translation:

"Das heißt: wenn zwischen Sprache A und Sprache B unbedingt etwas übersetzt werden muss, wird 2017 ein Zweisprachiger den Boden _absolut mit maschineller Übersetzung wischen."

Not quite there yet, but pretty good in my opinion. (German native speaker)

https://www.deepl.com/

Re:What We Get Wrong About Technology by dEnigma on Wednesday August 30, 2017 @07:42AM (#15131286)
Also, the other way around works even better in my opinion. That is, translation from German into English. I tried it with a few excerpts from a philosophy text book and the results were impressive.

Your point that the AI doesn't "understand" the text still stands though.

Re:What We Get Wrong About Technology by naasking on Thursday August 31, 2017 @02:48PM (#15142761)
> Your point that the AI doesn't "understand" the text still stands though

It should be noted that we don't know what "understanding" entails, so we don't even know if it's a coherent concept, or even a property humans have.

Re:What We Get Wrong About Technology by dEnigma on Thursday August 31, 2017 @02:57PM (#15142825)
Right, that was one of the reasons why I put the word in quotes. But I'm sure that if one were to define "understanding" with regard to humans, then what the AI does would be far from it. I might be terribly wrong here though, and AI could be just one corner away from real understanding.
Re:What We Get Wrong About Technology by naasking on Thursday August 31, 2017 @03:09PM (#15142911)
> But I'm sure that if one were to define "understanding" with regard to humans, then what the AI does would be far from it.

We have a bad habit of over-estimating our abilities, so I wouldn't bet too much money on that proposition.

Re:What We Get Wrong About Technology by dEnigma on Thursday August 31, 2017 @06:15PM (#15144416)
Sure, but I'm not saying that human "understanding" is "better", only different from current AI. But who knows, I could be wrong and at a certain layer of abstraction they might be quite similar.