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Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by nvr219 on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @02:52PM (#15126681)
I seriously just want a Macbook Air with high res screen. Everything else about it is 100% perfect for me.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by Spartan-S63 on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:01PM (#15126753)
The closest thing to that would be the 12" MacBook. I really think Apple needs to put the MacBook Air line out to pasture. They haven't updated it in a couple years and it was honestly never that great to begin with.

They should just focus on the MacBook and the MacBook Pro. With the new 13" MacBook Pros, the weight and footprint is getting ever closer to the MacBook Air, so that's also an option.

Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by giobox on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:36PM (#15126997)
That might well work one day in the future, but today, a MacBook Air with retina display would be a significantly better machine, given the TDP of the CPUs typically used in the Air vs the passively cooled 12" MacBook.

This is the computer huge numbers of people want, but Apple force up the range to the entry level 13" MacBook Pro (which incidentally IIRC currently has the same TDP class CPUs as the existing Air...) to get a decent display.

Really the entry level 13 inch MacBook Pro should start at $999, given it largely _is_ a MacBook Air but with Retina display and TB3. Heck the 13 inch Pro is technically thinner as well now, even if the wedge shape of the Air makes the Air seem smaller. They all but weigh the same now too.

> it [The MacBook Air] was honestly never that great to begin with

In absolute terms perhaps not, and definitely not at launch. Later models however offered a pretty compelling mix of price, size and performance for a long time. Especially the performance to battery life ratio, which at various times has been one of the best compromises in Apple's lineup. There's a reason sites like the Wirecutter and the Verge kept it their recommended machine "for most people" for such a long time. I still think later versions of the Air are some of the best machines Apple has made at their respective peaks, again "for most people".

Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by digikata on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @04:02PM (#15127176)
Yup, for me the current Apple lineup is a bit more than needed in the 13in Mac Pro, and a little low in the Macbook. And neither are giving real battery life/perf ratio that I'm looking for - so there's a gap. If not Apple then as an alternative I keep hoping that some linux shop will put in some power integration work to a quality PC-supply chain sourced laptop - because if I could get 10-12 hrs of light use battery life I think I'd switch.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by chongli on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:34PM (#15126984)
I really think Apple needs to put the MacBook Air line out to pasture. They haven't updated it in a couple years and it was honestly never that great to begin with.

Is it not selling very well? It seems unlikely to me that Apple, as ruthlessly efficient and profitable as they are, would continue making an old product if it's not selling. More likely is that it is selling and selling really well in some segments of the market. I would even conjecture that it is one of the more profitable products in the Mac line-up due to the lower cost of old technology.

Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by extra88 on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @06:49PM (#15128258)
The MacBook Air hasn't been updated since Early 2015, not as long as the mini's gone without an update but unlike the mini, I doubt they've make a new MacBook Air.

The 13" MacBook Pro weighs the same as the MacBook Air (well, the MBP is .06 lbs heavier) and is thinner than the Air at its thickest point (0.59 in. vs. 0.11 to 0.68 in.) . Apple's battery life estimate is longer for the Air than the MBP but that would not be true if they added a Retina display to the Air.

The MacBook Air is better at slicing cake than the 13"in MacBook Pro.

Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by chongli on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @10:13PM (#15129224)
MacBook Air hasn't been updated since Early 2015

I get that. My point is that Apple's not going to discontinue a product that continues to sell well enough to make it highly profitable. Likewise, if sales are not tapering off then there is little reason to update it unless they can cut costs by doing so.

This isn't the 90s anymore. A computer that's 6 years old is not 16x slower than a brand new one.

Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by m_mueller on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:20PM (#15126869)
Price, especially including dongles, says something else. Out of the box connectivity of anything but MBA is just awful. So are the keyboards.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by fresh_compiler on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:00PM (#15126741)
I suppose thats what the MacBook Pro with out Touchbar is supposed to be, but I think a 12" MacBook with a few more ports (honesty at least 2 USB C) would be a closer replacement.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by geerlingguy on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:11PM (#15126825)
I went up from an 11" Air to a 13" Pro, and I feel it's a lot less portable. The 12" MacBook would be _perfect_ for me if I could get 2 USB-C ports (or more). But having only one means it would be even harder to use the 12" than my 13" Function key, which already requires at least one dongle to use effectively for 'pro' level work.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by maxxxxx on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:09PM (#15126811)
It's starting to feel a little like the Macs in the 90s. More and more models and it's hard to figure out what to choose.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by orvado on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:04PM (#15126771)
Same here ... Macbook Air desperately needs a better screen. I reluctantly bought one recently just for the quality and reliability. Perhaps Apple is concerned that it would cut into their MacBook Pro sales too much.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by kruhft on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:52PM (#15127102)
I prefer the Air over the Pro. Hands down.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by lostlogin on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:21PM (#15126876)
13 inch, Touch ID, high dpi, terabyte ssd. What would you pay?
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by kruhft on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:52PM (#15127110)
Whatever they charge for it.

I'd say $3000 max.

Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by giobox on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @03:58PM (#15127149)
Arguably they already built what you want in that budget. It's called the 13 Inch MacBook Pro, it's already thinner than the Air (1.49cm vs 1.7cm at the Air's thickest point) and can be specified as argued.

They basically weigh the same now too (~20 grams between them).

Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by kruhft on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @04:36PM (#15127403)
I like the wedge shape and the battery life, which isn't even comparable to the MacBook Pro I had. Haven't seen one IRL yet and I'm not sure about the new keyboards, but I'll check one out someday after my Air(s) die.
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by kruhft on Tuesday August 29, 2017 @05:43PM (#15127850)
Oh, and no touch screen that I know of yet...
Re:Apple needs to update Mac Mini, which hasn't been updated... by lostlogin on Saturday September 02, 2017 @02:39AM (#15154658)
But you get to use a whole variety of dongles. It's all rather inelegant.