Tesla’s Push to Build a Self-Driving Car Sparks Dissent Among Its Engineers

Re:Tesla’s Push to Build a Self-Driving Car Sparks Dissent A... by RoyTyrell on Thursday August 24, 2017 @04:47PM (#15093908)

I'm not saying you're wrong, because I have absolutely no authority in the subject, but apart from knowing some terminology how do we know you have any expertise either?

> If you substitute, you have to do much much much better. Nobody will ride a driverless vehicle provided the explanation that it is, you know, "already an improvement when compared to a typical driver". Is it fair? Maybe not, but that's the whole point for entrusting lives to a machine.

I've heard Elon mention this and while I don't know exactly it's measured, he claimed that fully autonomous cars would have to be 10x "better" at driving than a human before they would be allowed. I'm paraphrasing when I say "better" but I'm sure I could find the video of him talking about it.

At any rate, your comment is interesting.

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Re:Tesla’s Push to Build a Self-Driving Car Sparks Dissent A... by crocal on Thursday August 24, 2017 @06:10PM (#15094494)

You are correct. I will edit and add some supporting references.

I don't know where Elon gets his numbers from, but according to EN 50126 practioners, human error is in the range of 2E-4 / 1E-3 whereas safety functions are classified at least SIL2 and that means 1E-6. In other word, the system must be x1000 better than a human.

Here is a good reference: http://en50126.blogspot.it/2009/10/safety-integrity-levels-s...

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