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Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by socalnate1 on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:01PM (#15084561)
How could you possibly believe you would get away with something like this.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by tlb on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:11PM (#15084625)
He started in 2005 and the investigation started in 2015, so he did get away with it for 10 years. He probably could have won a few, stopped, and gotten away with it if he'd been less greedy.

The code was clever, generating predictable numbers on a few particular days of the year. And it must have been subtle, to survive 10 years of nobody else noticing.

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by jstanley on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:18PM (#15084687)
Makes you wonder how many people do get away with things like this without anybody realising.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by pessimizer on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @05:11PM (#15085211)
Most criminals get away with most crimes. 40% of murders go unsolved.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by chiliap2 on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @06:09PM (#15085642)
Wouldn't that mean they don't get away with most murders?
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by wongarsu on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @09:54PM (#15087013)
It's close enough that undetected/unreported murders could tip the scales. If you get away with making it look like an accident, isn't in the statistic of unsolved murders.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by piptastic on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @06:15PM (#15085679)
sure, but most crimes aren't murders.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by mrleiter on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:25PM (#15084746)
The investigation started in 2010, so five years. But still, five years is a lot.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by wyldfire on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:44PM (#15084896)
I think a big flag would be lots of winning tickets with the numbers selected. I suspect some astonishingly high rate of tickets sold are selected by the lottery terminal ("quick pick").
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by rev_null on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @05:53PM (#15085558)
He would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for those pesky kids.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by huebnerob on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:23PM (#15084733)
Especially with a frankly embarrassingly poor attempt to place distance between himself and the payouts. He picked his own brother and a close family friend? Might as well have walked up to his boss every other week with a spot of feigned surprise and a new jackpot winning ticket to cash out, figuring they could direct deposit it along with his paycheck.

Really makes you wonder how many moderately intelligent people out there are successfully running schemes like this and just never arouse suspicion.

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by wolco on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @05:11PM (#15085201)
The family friend would have been fine.

The problem was not enough legwork. That person should have played those numbers for a few months or at least weeks before hand.

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by lazerpants on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:29PM (#15084777)
As a thought exercise, what do you think the minimum distance between the cheater and the payout would need to be in order to avoid detection?
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by bluGill on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:47PM (#15084931)
High enough that you can't fully trust the guy getting the payout to share.

If someone you just vaguely know made you an offer to get this payout would you accept it or turn them in? Most of us reading this make enough money that we can afford to be honest in cases like this, so it is a moral question only - are you really dishonest enough to cheat?

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by 0xfeba on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:58PM (#15085059)
Yeah I'd accept that, without much hesitation.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by twothamendment on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @06:08PM (#15085639)
I don't know if distance matters. Let's say he found the perfect stranger who agrees to this. I think the bigger problem would be how do they exchange $7,000,000 in a way that nobody will notice?
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by falsedan on Thursday August 24, 2017 @06:49AM (#15089019)
Money-laundering is cheap and easy.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by TearsInTheRain on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:32PM (#15084808)
at minimum a bacon number of 2
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by nasredin on Thursday August 24, 2017 @02:18PM (#15092595)
AKA Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by falsedan on Thursday August 24, 2017 @06:47AM (#15089007)
> Might as well have walked up to his boss every other week with a spot of feigned surprise and a new jackpot winning ticket to cash out, figuring they could direct deposit it along with his paycheck.

Now this is a prestige TV series I would watch.

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by weaksauce on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:21PM (#15084710)
smart enough to pull it off but dumb enough to think that having your brother win a $14,000,000 prize is not suspicious and wouldn't be investigated... that's impressive.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by logfromblammo on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:50PM (#15084967)
Even the stupid lizard criminal portion of my brain tells me that you never set yourself up to win the jackpot. You take the third place prize.

But even then, you need a plausible reason to be cashing in so many winning tickets, so you also spend some of your guaranteed winnings on losing tickets, and also buy a bunch that will break even. That 3rd-place prize is less suspicious if you're also cashing in 1000 $2 winners at the same time, and putting it all into a "Lottery Buyer's Club LLC" account.

It's the Superman III principle. You can steal as many half-pennies as you can haul away in a truck, but if you take even one $10000 note, someone is going to notice.

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by sushid on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:28PM (#15084775)
It wasn't his brother. But it was a friend who lived in Texas that tried to claim the Iowa lottery winnings.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by crb002 on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:10PM (#15084621)
The Iowa Attorney General was so incompetent in the digital forensics they barely convicted him the first trial. Only after did they figure out how he did it.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by defen on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @05:28PM (#15085348)
Is there an explanation somewhere of the technical details of how he did it?
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by dan000892 on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @08:12PM (#15086468)
The firm who investigated presented at DEFCON this year. Here's the PDF.

https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2025/DEF%20CON%2025%20pre...

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by mvidal01 on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @06:45PM (#15085848)
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by albinofrenchy on Thursday August 24, 2017 @01:38AM (#15087835)
> Investigators who examined the random number generator for the Wisconsin random number generator concluded it contained two extra bits of coding that instructed it to produce Tipton’s numbers on just three days of the year.

Super unfortunate wording. I spent a second wondering how you could encode that much precision in two 'bits'.

This seems like a good case for open source; and pay bounties for anything untoward. I really am curious what the code looks like for this.

Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by mythrwy on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:15PM (#15084655)
Related question: how many people have gotten away with things like this that we have no knowledge of?
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by c3534l on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:49PM (#15084957)
This guy got away with it for 5 years. The only other one I know of is the McDonald's Monopoly guy who rigged it for 4 years. This tells me you can get away with it for a while, repeatedly. And I really doubt most people would take a huge payout, then keep working that job to do it again. So I suspect that it takes 4 or 5 years to get caught and we're just catching the minority of people greedy enough to keep their scam going for years, despite the massive amounts of money they've accumulated already.
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by frandroid on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:32PM (#15084803)
Let's start the betting on the answers...
Re:Ex-lottery worker who rigged winnings gets 25 years in pr... by DINKDINK on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @04:09PM (#15084612)
People overestimate over estimate possible improbable odds and underestimate near certain odds.

Much the same way the mental processes enjoy playing the lottery.

See Possibility Effect, Certainty Effect