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Re:Let Consumers Sue Companies by baddox on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @04:42PM (#15076192)
There's no incompatibility with something being a right and someone choosing to not exercise that right. Your argument is similar to arguing that you should not be allowed to speak while under arrested, or that you should be forced to own property.
Re:Let Consumers Sue Companies by QAPereo on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @04:55PM (#15076309)
Turn it around and it's just a matter of not allowing anyone else to infringe on your rights to that extent; to go back to his example maybe you do have the right to sign yourself away to slavery, but nobody has the right to take up that contract.
Re:Let Consumers Sue Companies by baddox on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @11:27PM (#15078291)
Everyone uses the "signing yourself into slavery" example, but it's not clear what that means. If you consent to it, then it's not slavery (you can make arguments about "wage slavery," but I think that's a different issue). If you sign a contract to perform labor for some period of time, then change your mind later, the contract likely has some terms for breaking the contract early, and if it doesn't, it's probably not likely to be enforced by any court.
Re:Let Consumers Sue Companies by mikeash on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:44AM (#15082409)
Not being allowed to quit is pretty much the defining aspect of slavery.
Re:Let Consumers Sue Companies by baddox on Thursday August 24, 2017 @08:56PM (#15095343)
A pretty fundamental part of any contract is the cost to a party if they wish to terminate the contract.
Re:Let Consumers Sue Companies by QAPereo on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @07:22AM (#15080476)
That's nothing like slavery then.
Re:Let Consumers Sue Companies by mikeash on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @04:57PM (#15076322)
Choosing not to exercise a right is completely different from giving up a right.

I can choose to speak while under arrest, but I cannot give up my right to silence. I can choose not to own property, but I cannot give up my right to own it.