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Re:Android Oreo by izacus on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:34PM (#15067635)
Yes, the limited availability of Google Store and Google hardware in general is a huge failing of the company.

I really don't understand why they so commonly fail to bring best Android devices to markets with most Android penetration - they're practically giving the market share away to Apple's aggressive price cuts lately.

Re:Android Oreo by rothbardrand on Monday August 21, 2017 @06:38PM (#15068360)
The reason is they simply cannot do it. It's very different shipping a high end phone in units of 100 million vs shipping a high end phone in units of 500,000.

This is why most android high end devices are really tiny market share.

They can't compete with Apple-- AT VOLUME. Apple's supply chain is where they are hugely competitive. This goes for Samsung etc.

So on android, genuinely high end phones are prestige items to make android look good, but the mass of android phones are low end cheap phones that can easily be mass produced.

Apple has been known to buy 10,000 prototype modeling machines and put them into production because they were the only ones on the market that could do a particularly manufacturing step that was needed for that model... google is never going to do that.

In fact, I don't think google has ever made any phones (excluding Motorola) themselves-- all the Pixels are rebrands of other makers devices.

Re:Android Oreo by kyle-rb on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:18PM (#15068589)
The Nexus line are the phones that are manufactured by various other device makers. I think the Pixel is actually made directly by Google.
Re:Android Oreo by aidenn0 on Monday August 21, 2017 @08:17PM (#15068825)
The Pixel is made by HTC.
Re:Android Oreo by seanp2k2 on Monday August 21, 2017 @10:52PM (#15069375)
But we still don't know (do we?) who made that pixel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook_Pixel
Re:Android Oreo by ridiculous_fish on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @12:05AM (#15069612)
Google made that one.
Re:Android Oreo by on_and_off on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:37PM (#15067665)
My understanding is that it is not enough to ship the device to a country, you also need an very large ad push and deals with local operators in order to actually sell it.

However, it should be mentioned that the pixel was sold in even less countries than the previous generation ..

Google really need to step up its game.

Re:Android Oreo by hsivonen on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @12:52AM (#15069817)
Not having an ad campaign is an extremely poor reason to refuse to ship EU-wide when they ship to Germany. The operator excuse is not valid in the EU. The EU is supposed to be a single market.