Re:Inciting Violence vs Freedom of Speech
by seattle_spring on Sunday August 20, 2017 @01:26PM
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The alt-left is not a real thing. please stop spreading this meme.
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Now I'm confused. Is Antifa mainstream Left then? I think most people would disagree. What term is more appropriate to describe them? Genuine question.
Re:Inciting Violence vs Freedom of Speech
by mintplant on Sunday August 20, 2017 @02:10PM
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Anarchists, socialists, and antifascists have been traditionally grouped under the umbrella of "the Left". It's odd seeing people try to push parts of the original Left out into the "Alt-Left", almost like gentrifying a political space.
(Antifascism itself dates back to early 20th century opposition action against fascist tides in Italy, Germany, and Spain; the comparison to the modern phenomenon of the Alt-Right feels historically inappropriate.)
Re:Inciting Violence vs Freedom of Speech
by dragonwriter on Sunday August 20, 2017 @02:20PM
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> Is Antifa mainstream Left then?
It substantially overlaps with the mainstream of the left; note that in the US, the dominant (though decreasingly so) faction of the Democratic Party is center-right, not left at all.
What exactly is your question? You have about 3 layers of circular reasoning and undefined terms.
Re:Inciting Violence vs Freedom of Speech
by thinkingemote on Sunday August 20, 2017 @01:32PM
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Many thought that the alt-right is not a real thing either. Turns out if you label something and it sticks, it becomes real.
Re:Inciting Violence vs Freedom of Speech
by dragonwriter on Sunday August 20, 2017 @02:17PM
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“alt-right” is a label created by people to refer to themselves, and distinguishes their group from the establishment right.
“alt-left” is a label created by defenders of the alt-right to refer generically to it's opponents. They aren't really parallel terms.
Re:Inciting Violence vs Freedom of Speech
by tweedledee on Sunday August 20, 2017 @01:44PM
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I did ask :)
It appears as if the Alt-Left is already a thing. Otherwise people would be asking for clarification on what I meant by it.