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Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by wmf on Saturday August 19, 2017 @04:12PM (#15055321)
Under proof of work you essentially end up "staking" money by buying ASICs/GPUs that take 9-12 months to break even. In general, miners are going to spend almost as much as the block reward, whether that's in hardware and electricity or in opportunity cost. http://www.truthcoin.info/blog/pow-cheapest/

And many people are "hodling" cryptocurrency as a long-term store of value anyway so presumably they aren't concerned with the velocity of money.

Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by Taek on Saturday August 19, 2017 @04:59PM (#15055567)
Long term hodlers who haven't locked their coins into staking can respond quickly to network events such as Bitcoin-cash. People who are running mining businesses can at least sell the business if they suddenly need access to a lot of capital. With proof of stake, it really is locked up for whatever period of time.

If your staking period is just a couple of weeks, this is probably less significant than owning a mining farm. But if your staking period is several months, the opportunity cost probably is greater than mining or hodling, because you sacrifice a lot in terms of flexibility.

Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by wmf on Saturday August 19, 2017 @08:53PM (#15056406)
When you put it that way, I expect to see a secondary market for stake. This could be implemented by selling the private key or by delegation similar to a mining pool.
Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by DennisP on Saturday August 19, 2017 @09:59PM (#15056615)
Selling the private key would be a bad idea since you can't guarantee the seller destroys it. But you could have the staker address be a contract, with an ownership that can be transfered.
Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by Taek on Sunday August 20, 2017 @05:15AM (#15057630)
You could use an HSM to hold the private key and then sell the HSM. Overall it's still a bad idea to buy an HSM because you don't know what other transactions have been signed, but maybe the HSM keeps a history of everything it has signed as well.

Which, if you can still sell your staked coins, what is the point of locking them up in the first place?

Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by DennisP on Sunday August 20, 2017 @02:44PM (#15059670)
Good point. Maybe they'll only allow deposits from non-contract addresses.
Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by mccoyspace on Saturday August 19, 2017 @06:28PM (#15055990)
But you are essentially staking "off chain" by buying the gear in fiat money. So there is a built-in exchange rate arbitrage. And the on-chain velocity of value is not slowed down. This isn't true in ETH POS.
Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by surrey-fringe on Saturday August 19, 2017 @05:46PM (#15055803)
Ethereum's block hash algorithm is more memory intensive than bitcoin's and benefits less from ASIC work -- please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that it faces the same problems.
Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by tempay on Saturday August 19, 2017 @06:12PM (#15055911)
The same thing applies, you have to buy/power GPUs and decide they are best utilised mining ethereum, mining another coin or powering your new startup.
Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by rothbardrand on Saturday August 19, 2017 @06:20PM (#15055949)
You're right and it's proven pretty robust at that. This is a good proof of work, because it means that anyone with commodity hardware can set up a miner, and the playing field is pretty level.
Re:Ethereum Proof of Stake FAQ by nosuchthing on Saturday August 19, 2017 @09:32PM (#15056535)
Assuming everyone has existing funds to acquire mining hardware.

Large existing expendable cash has a greater advantage to mine and mint. Mining pool operators are also in a position to manipulate minting and transactions in the network.