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Re:What a Border Collie Taught a Linguist About Language by posterboy on Friday August 18, 2017 @12:44PM (#15047719)
animals solve without being told how to by a human, in contrast to a computer. of course newer AI is different, and it's called AI for a reason.
Re:What a Border Collie Taught a Linguist About Language by mabub24 on Friday August 18, 2017 @12:54PM (#15047802)
Newer AI is entirely limited by the algorithmic and logical frameworks assigned to it by others than itself. Machine learning is not "true" AI. It's called AI because it's slick marketing.

Animals can solve puzzles. Solving puzzles, however, doesn't mean you can reason in the same way humans can. For instance, humans can ask why they are solving the puzzle. That's an expression of cogitative ability that animals don't have.

Re:What a Border Collie Taught a Linguist About Language by posterboy on Sunday August 20, 2017 @08:12AM (#15058088)
This whole discussion is just about people unsure whether something else is smarter than thdm or not.
Re:What a Border Collie Taught a Linguist About Language by Dylan16807 on Friday August 18, 2017 @02:48PM (#15048745)
If you ask a human why they are doing something they will often make up a reason and not even realize they're doing so. Especially when emotions are involved.
Re:What a Border Collie Taught a Linguist About Language by mabub24 on Friday August 18, 2017 @03:04PM (#15048882)
That's true, but rather than "make-up" they are assigning a reason to their actions because they did them voluntarily. That is a rational thing to do, that gives a why for their action through their introspection, or sheer need for justification. If it is not voluntary, they'll often say that or it is immediately apparent, or they are ill.

And we are fully capable of investigating that reason, that why, to find out whether it is reasonable or whether a better why can be provided. Animals cannot assign a reason, nor can we "investigate an animal's reason", because that's nonsense. Animals don't give why's.