The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Nazis in America?

Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by mido22 on Friday August 18, 2017 @05:46AM (#15044813)

I am kinda confused, facebook was criticized for not weeding out "fake news" (same for twitter/ Instagram not controlling trolling/hate speech), and Cloudflare is criticized for not being content neutral... damned if you do, damned if you don't

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Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by convery on Friday August 18, 2017 @05:56AM (#15044851)

Pretty sure it's different groups complaining.

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Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by leereeves on Friday August 18, 2017 @05:58AM (#15044860)

The ACLU gets plenty of criticism too. Some people don't support the rights the ACLU defends.

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Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by ForHackernews on Friday August 18, 2017 @06:39AM (#15045039)

I think there's a meaningful difference between a media company (Facebook/Twitter/etc.) and an infrastructure provider.

I expect the electric company to provide electricity to everyone on a non-discriminatory basis. I don't expect publishers to print everything that gets submitted to them.

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Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by the8472 on Friday August 18, 2017 @09:08AM (#15045745)

Facebook claims to provide service to 25% of the world population. I think it's worth considering whether they are communication carriers at this point.

Real-world concepts of common carriers are centered around the concept of natural monopolies arising from local effects. That does not take networking effects into account which can work non-locally.

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Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by PeanutCurry on Friday August 18, 2017 @06:46AM (#15045058)

Could you expand on this a little? I'm confused because the ACLU is not a government organization, they're not part of the infrastructure.

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Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by pls2halp on Friday August 18, 2017 @06:48AM (#15045062)

His parent was referring to Cloudflare suspending their services for the Daily Stormer, which was presumably the impetuous for this whole post.

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Re:The ACLU Asks in 1934: Shall We Defend Free Speech for Na... by lmm on Friday August 18, 2017 @07:38AM (#15045270)

Facebook should be careful about the news they're promoting (in the "trending articles" part). But they should remain neutral when they're acting as a pipe for people's posts.

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