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Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by Grustaf on Friday August 18, 2017 @05:40AM (#15044788)
Yes, and that is unfortunate, but it was preceded, and followed, by breaking the law.
Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by arethuza on Friday August 18, 2017 @06:13AM (#15044916)
It's not "unfortunate" it's an example of how a clerical error that would be an inconvenience somewhere where public transport is good or if you have enough money to pay for taxis becomes nearly catastrophic if you are poor.

He made a mistake, paid his fine and that should have been that.

Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by jachee on Friday August 18, 2017 @09:50AM (#15046118)
> He made a mistake, paid his fine and that should have been that.

Exactly. It's not like I even made a choice to drive with a suspended license. This was nearly 20 years ago now, and it happened in a tiny no-red-light town with no computer system. The ticket was for 61 in a 55 on a downhill grade. The dead-tree paperwork that confirmed that I had paid got lost, they had the wrong address on file, and I never found out my license was suspended. Cut to 2 years later and a different blink-and-you-miss it town that happens to be on a border bottleneck is running their weekly roadblock while I happen to pass through, and next thing I know it's "Step out of the car and put your hands behind your back."

Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by Grustaf on Friday August 18, 2017 @10:15AM (#15046359)
Sorry, it wasn't clear to me that you were not aware of the suspended license.

I still think that you can't complain about getting the initial fine, regardless of the size of the town where you broke the law. I also don't see how this is really connected with being poor.

If you're arguing that many speed limits are set to low I'm totally with you, but that's a separate question.

Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by jachee on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @11:32PM (#15087404)
I'm not even arguing that they're too low, I'm arguing that they should not be used as a fund-raiser.

The particular section of highway I'm talking about is about a half-mile long, on a downhill grade, and changes down 10mph.

The cops sit in the middle and ticket people as they're decelerating. It's a racket, plain and simple.

Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by delazeur on Friday August 18, 2017 @09:59AM (#15046208)
Shit, do you really think that people who get speeding tickets deserve jail time? You understand that the punishment should be proportional to the crime, right?
Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by Grustaf on Friday August 18, 2017 @10:11AM (#15046316)
Where did you get that from?
Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by delazeur on Friday August 18, 2017 @10:38AM (#15046557)
It's a reasonable reading of your comments. Perhaps you communicated poorly? Browsing the thread, I am far from the only person who read you this way.
Re:John Scalzi: Being Poor (2005) by Grustaf on Friday August 18, 2017 @10:57AM (#15046743)
You should get a fine for speeding, and jailtime might be appropriate for driving without a license. The problem here is that it seems the offender had not been told about the suspension, thats very unfortunate but not a feature of the justice system. And the clerical error could have affected Bill Gates too.