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Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by thriftwy on Thursday August 17, 2017 @05:48PM (#15041352)
I'm 88% Eastern European by Family Tree DNA test. Terroir and all that stuff.

I think that the racial discourse is not just unfair and smelly, but also unfruitful. You ought to really look at culture. This won't help the right with the left, of course, because they hate to admit cultural differencies either.

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by pmoriarty on Thursday August 17, 2017 @05:55PM (#15041400)
Which cultural differences, specifically, are you talking about? Can you give some concrete examples?
Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by freshhawk on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:25PM (#15041638)
Individualism vs Communitarianism is a very well studied broad example (with a nice bimodal distribution) and leads to pretty strong disagreements about some fundamental values for people from different cultures.

Worldview and religious differences also lead to disagreements about fundamental values. And among other concrete examples that I personally think are important: how much respect should be given to religious/spiritual/supernatural beliefs, what rights are inalienable human rights, how people with various illnesses should be treated, how resources are distributed, what behaviour is acceptable during disagreements (on large scales and small) and what subjects/ideas/beliefs/actions are taboo seem like the big ones.

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by thriftwy on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:00PM (#15041434)
Some cultures have hard time admitting, for example, that societal and legal rights for women and men should be as matched as possible.

Some other cultures got there mostly.

When these cultures meet and interact, the former just become stronger in their misgivings.

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by incompatible on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:13PM (#15041537)
Language and religion are big ones.
Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by mythrwy on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:04PM (#15041469)
I took the comment to mean that the complaints of many racists are really often more about what they perceive as "culture" rather than actual genetics. They simply use skin color as a signal and a proxy in assignment because racism is essentially a form of mental laziness.
Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by olewhalehunter on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:03PM (#15041461)
The Inuit people, among similar cultures, are having a problem with diabetes because their bodies adapted to a hunter's diet of high protein and fat low in glucose prior to the introduction of agricultural products from colonialism. Darn, that's actually a biological difference too.

https://www.txbiomed.org/news-press/news-releases/inuit-diab...

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by greglindahl on Thursday August 17, 2017 @05:58PM (#15041422)
Are you suggesting a return to Social Darwinism? Because that worked out really well last time.
Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by CamperBob2 on Thursday August 17, 2017 @05:56PM (#15041409)
This won't help the right with the left, of course, because they hate to admit cultural differencies either.

Yes, the remarkable aspect of this whole debate is how easy it is to feel superior to both sides ( https://xkcd.com/774/ ).

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by will_brown on Thursday August 17, 2017 @05:58PM (#15041420)
>88% Eastern European

I don't think you went back far enough, keep going and you are likely to find your Eastern European ancestry migrated out of Africa.

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by bloobloobloo on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:00PM (#15041439)
The out-of-Africa theory is junky agenda-driven science. It was debunked a decade ago.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-out-of-afr...

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by the_mitsuhiko on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:05PM (#15041477)
Still out of Africa.
Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by eric_h on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:18PM (#15041581)
Yes, the wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#Dispersal_of_m...) has more information than the article linked by the GP.
Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by bloobloobloo on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:18PM (#15041577)
Most North American scientists agree that Asia isn't really in Africa per se. Perhaps this news hasn't reached your corner of the world.
Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by eric_h on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:19PM (#15041590)
Africa -> Asia -> Europe

Africa -> ... -> Europe

Africa is still where it started.

Re:White nationalists flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Do... by bloobloobloo on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:30PM (#15041669)
No, the ocean is where it started.

If we're going to speak meaningfully about where Europeans come from, we need to include wherever they picked up Neanderthal DNA (hint: not in Africa; no African population has it).