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Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by imron on Thursday August 17, 2017 @02:41AM (#15034291)
> Ah. Well, it's now quite clear where you stand,

Yes, on the side of freedom of association and freedom of speech, even for unsavoury characters.

Pointing out that some counter protesters were spoiling for a fight (dressed in black, masked, and armed with baseball bats and pepper spray) shouldn't in any way be construed as supporting Nazis.

Pointing out that the March on Google has been postponed due to threats of violence, shouldn't be construed as support for the March on Google.

And pointing out that violence against Nazis is being normalised shouldn't be taken as support for Nazis, rather it's the worry that it's all too easy to expand the scope of Nazis to then include 'other people with views I disagree with' (see above about March on Google being postponed due to threats of violence).

For where I actually stand, I used to consider myself left-leaning, but I'm not really sure I like where the left is heading these days so following Dave Rubin's lead, I'd go with classically liberal.

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Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by Zahreddine on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:40AM (#15035431)
You went from arguing with him to proving him right. Congrats.
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by Dylan16807 on Thursday August 17, 2017 @11:33AM (#15037657)
Saying that he is siding with Nazis is not proving him right at all. Proving him right would be calling him a Nazi.
Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by imron on Thursday August 17, 2017 @03:18AM (#15034456)
Thank you for illustrating my point.

I'm also not entirely sure how you square this comment with your one above about credulous idiots, but the idea that I'm somehow siding with Nazis is ridiculous.

Anyway, I think we can both agree that there's not much more fruitful discussion to be had between us on this particular topic, so this will be my last reply.

Re:Why We Terminated Daily Stormer by EdSharkey on Thursday August 17, 2017 @06:59AM (#15035531)
He didn't pick Nazi's, he just wants them to be free to speak. Consider please that your ideas on freedom of speech have the opposite effect to what you intend.

I posit that speech is a pressure release valve, and that you should not muzzle people you don't agree with. This creates resentment and anger in those people whose only other outlet might be violence and revolution. There are odious characters on the right and the left who are already spoiling for a fight, and I think your notion of how we deal with that just escalates the conflict. Smarter people than you or I set freedom of speech as the first freedom, and one reason I think it's highest is because we need free speech in order to live with one another.

Which do you prefer, diplomacy or war? Part of diplomacy is dialogue.