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Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by ouid on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @12:58PM (#15019999)
I suspect they are encouraging people to lie on their applications, which gives companies a defense to any sort of fired for cause lawsuit.
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by tchaffee on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @01:29PM (#15020343)
Really? That sounds a little paranoid. I always just tell the truth on the interview and application. "You asked for 5+ years experience, but I only have 6 months. I'm willing to learn if you are willing to train me".
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by ouid on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @01:48PM (#15020533)
How is that paranoid? You think there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for asking for more experience with a technology than is physically possible?
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by borisj on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @01:55PM (#15020621)
Yes, incompetence. I bet that such a defense would have trouble in court considering that your resume and interview would ideally cover the true amount of years of experience.
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by striking on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @01:56PM (#15020637)
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by crypticlizard on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @04:37PM (#15022219)
It's not malice, it's business and legal acumen.
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by tchaffee on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @08:31PM (#15024016)
If that's what the legal department recommended to me as a business owner to add in protections for being able to fire employees, I would fire the legal department.

How many applicants will be inspired to lie because of my absurd requirement on the job spec? Of those applicants, how many will I hire? Do I only hire applicants who have lied in order to be protected so I can later fire them? I wouldn't hire someone who lied on their application in the first place!

I've never had a legal department recommend something so silly as this, and I challenge you to find one that does. If you want certain protections for the company in an employment agreement, you put them in a contract.

Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by ouid on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @02:11PM (#15020783)
"never say never"
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by striking on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @02:20PM (#15020875)
Bieber's Razor?
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by khedoros1 on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @02:13PM (#15020803)
They're either looking for a purple squirrel (like trying to hire the original developer of the technology), trying to move someone internally into a position that requires them to also seek outside candidates (by making the requirements impossible to fulfill), or dev told HR they needed someone with "X" experience for a senior role, and HR translated that to "10 years experience with X" (X having been out for 2 years).

There are three of the standard answers that come up any time this topic does.

Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by ouid on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @02:17PM (#15020838)
I would say the next step here is to look at who actually gets hired, but I have no way of accessing that.
Re:Ask HN: Where does one find true entry level development ... by jldugger on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @01:46PM (#15029518)
If we're going for impossible, then it sounds more like the old H1-B 'we couldn't find any qualified applicants' trick.