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Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by stephenr on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:52AM (#15009554)
Given Apple's recent public push on privacy, I keep expecting DDG to become the new 'default' search engine in Safari.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by 27182818284 on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:55AM (#15009584)
I think they'd be interested if the results were half as good as Googles. As an experiment the last 6 months or so I've been using DDG at work and Google at home. The difference in quality is very noticeable—Google still is the best search engine.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by danjoc on Monday August 14, 2017 @12:23PM (#15009871)
As a counter anecdote, I've been using DDG for the last three years, at least. I really haven't missed Google at all for search. The only Google thing I can't find a replacement for is Maps.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by hobarrera on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @10:35PM (#15033343)
I've been using Here Maps (from Nokia) pretty happily for years. It's worth checking out (oh, even though it's a Nokia thing, there's an iOS app).
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by yvesmh on Monday August 14, 2017 @01:47PM (#15010727)
I've been using DDG for trivial queries, I tried using it for more complex ones but the results were very poor. Since DDG is my default all I have to do is add a g! at the end to get Google results.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by r00fus on Monday August 14, 2017 @03:18PM (#15011802)
Amusingly I do somewhat the opposite. DDG is fine for mobile searches, but I require better results for work lookups.

I use DDG for home laptop, but often use g! prefix for things like flight data or image searches.

Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by hobarrera on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @10:34PM (#15033334)
Amazing. I've had the exact opposite results for years. The only place I've ever seen DDG fails is local results (eg: searching for a nearby restaurant). Then again, I'd expect it to, given they don't know where I am.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by notzorbo3 on Monday August 14, 2017 @12:19PM (#15009826)
Use startpage.com. I've tried DDG a few times over the last years. The results where reasonable when it was still using Google as a backend. Since it's switched to something else (Bing?) it's horrible. startpage.com gives me anonymized results from google.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by JBReefer on Monday August 14, 2017 @12:13PM (#15009772)
Do you use the bang system in DDG? I think that more than makes up the difference.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by Sargos on Monday August 14, 2017 @06:02PM (#15013416)
If you have to remember to use arbitrary bangs to get specific results then DDG has already failed as a search engine. Coding a query yourself is obviously the most powerful way to search documents, but the key to useful software is to do the hard work for you.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by stephenr on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @03:13AM (#15016152)
Bangs dont 'get specific results' - they're shortcuts to let you do site-specific 'searches', on that site.

So, if I want to check the versions of haproxy in the various Debian suites, then `!dpkg haproxy` would take me to https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=haproxy.

If I just want general results about HAproxy, that isn't what a bang is for.

Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by 27182818284 on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @12:39AM (#15015546)
I do, but doing !g or !fl seems to defeat the purpose.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by Froyoh on Monday August 14, 2017 @04:08PM (#15012342)
It's hard to have personalized search results (search bubble) while having a sense of privacy.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by stephenr on Monday August 14, 2017 @03:29PM (#15011929)
> Google still is the best search engine

Define "best"? By what metric?

Given that we know Google use your own search history to influence current search result rankings, there is a bubble effect. I don't consider that to be a good thing. Their privacy policy and general business model (give away services for 'free' and data-mine the living bejesus out of user content to make creepy stalker-level profiles of them, for the purposes of showing adverts) are very much at odds with what I want from a search engine, or any business really.

I've yet to see anyone do a comparison of Google with browser settings such that they can't use previous search history to influence results, vs other search engines which don't rely on history for relevance anyway.

For me, DDG is good enough that I use it all the time on all my devices. I use !bangs, but the only google-related Bang I've used at all recently is !tr (Google Translate).

Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by devmunchies on Tuesday August 15, 2017 @01:16AM (#15015699)
Apple is indirectly involved in the ad business via Google. They sell the default search engine spot to the highest bidder, even though they know its not performing private searches. They only tout privacy if it sells more phones.

Its business.

Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by hobarrera on Wednesday August 16, 2017 @10:33PM (#15033327)
I keep WISHING DDG to become the new 'default' search engine in Safari.
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by romanovcode on Monday August 14, 2017 @04:39PM (#15012642)
Do you really think they care?
Re:Google is paying Apple billions per year to remain on the... by Eridrus on Monday August 14, 2017 @11:56AM (#15009598)
Lol.