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Re:Exploring strategies to decarbonize electricity by eropple on Friday August 11, 2017 @01:28AM (#14986796)
1. Agreed, but whataboutism--and you may not mean it that way but your post sure sounded like it--is basically never helpful.

2. OK. Aluminum smelters and oil refineries and frigging box factories and everything else. Start summing up. Those numbers don't show what you want them to show, I'd wager.

3. I'm arguing that it is a hell of a lot better to go after the people who actively benefit from disproportionate use because they are causing the deepest externalities.

Re:Exploring strategies to decarbonize electricity by lostlogin on Friday August 11, 2017 @03:37AM (#14987414)
I don't know if this adds or detracts from what your saying but here in NZ 13% of power usage is aluminium smelting. 44% is industry, 32% commercial and 24% residential. Transmission loses 6% (not sure why the above totals add up to 100%, so it must exclude the losses).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_New_Ze...