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Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by rsynnott on Thursday August 10, 2017 @03:03PM (#14982983)
> I'm dismayed that the very environment we all share somehow got politicized to death.

Largely in the US; the very existence of anthropogenic global warming is not a partisan issue in most of the world.

> I wonder what would have happened to the Ozone Hole if it too got politicized at the time

It did; there are people who deny it _to this day_, amazingly.

> or the link between smoking and cancer

It did; tobacco companies lobbied and continue to lobby mightily, and politicians were arguing that tobacco wasn't unsafe for a long time.

Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by pmarreck on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:12PM (#14983668)
> and politicians were arguing that tobacco wasn't unsafe for a long time

did these politicians suffer any discredit as a result?

Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by rsynnott on Thursday August 10, 2017 @04:17PM (#14983735)
I don't think so, really. It's surprisingly rare for politicians to face blowback for pushing stuff that later turned out to be obviously terrible. Everyone was pretty much pretending Strom Thurmond wasn't awful right up to his death, say.
Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by heygrady on Thursday August 10, 2017 @06:49PM (#14985088)
I wonder why? Is the same phenomenon at play with Trump's approval rating? It's been in the high-mid-30s for many weeks now [1]. 80+ consecutive days at the time of this writing. Even outside of Russia-related scandals (like hiring Mike Flynn [3]), he has done some obviously bad things (like the Billy Bush tape [2]).

[1] https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_and_Billy_Bush_re...

[3] http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/sally-yates-pr...

Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by rbg246 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @05:46PM (#14984611)
Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by _-david-_ on Thursday August 10, 2017 @11:42PM (#14986432)
Pence is pretty clearly saying smoking is bad for you.

>This is not to say that smoking is good for you.... news flash: smoking is not good for you. If you are reading this article through the blue haze of cigarette smoke you should quit.

Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by threatofrain on Friday August 11, 2017 @04:35AM (#14987703)
But how bad? The context for that snippet is:

> We will hear about how this phalanx of government elates has suddenly grown a conscience after decades of subsidizing the product which, we are now told, "kills millions of Americans each year".

> Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast...

Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by rsynnott on Friday August 11, 2017 @11:50AM (#14990898)
Yeah, Pence is severely downplaying the risks but is not actually saying it's not dangerous. Note that this was 2001, seriously late in the day. Most of the serious denialism was 80s and earlier; Pence was probably one of the last people beating this drum.
Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by rbg246 on Friday August 11, 2017 @09:33AM (#14989458)
I believe the quote 'smoking doesn't kill' is pretty clear of his intent.
Re:2016 was third consecutive year of record global warmth by pmarreck on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:44PM (#14985415)
that's amazing (not in a good way)