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Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by vanderZwan on Thursday August 10, 2017 @06:28AM (#14978274)
> The worst part of Firefox is the terribly long startup time. It can take up to 10 seconds after a reboot and takes quite a long time even with warm caches.

If you're the type with a lot of tabs open, that should improve a lot in the next few releases.

https://metafluff.com/2017/07/21/i-am-a-tab-hoarder/index.ht...

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by exDM69 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @06:45AM (#14978346)
> If you're the type with a lot of tabs open

I'm not and I don't store/restore tabs on close, so that's not the case here. It's just Firefox + Vimperator + uBlock origin with about:blank as home page.

I'm on Linux/X11 if that matters.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by bovine3dom on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:06AM (#14978456)
This is probably a good place to plug the fact that Vimperator is going to die with FF57 [1].

If anyone wants to help with making an alternative, look through that thread. I'm particularly invested in Tridactyl [2] but other people are working on others.

[1] https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/705

[2] https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by ronjouch on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:26AM (#14978567)
Not strictly feature-equivalent, but there's already a working (I use it everyday) port of Vimium for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by StevePerkins on Thursday August 10, 2017 @08:11AM (#14978823)
I've been using VimFX all along, which is actively maintained and already compatible with multiprocess.

It's a web browser, not an actual text editor. 99% of the time, you're just wanting familiar keyboard commands for navigation. It feels like Vimperator does so many impractical things almost tongue-in-cheek, just to show how cool it is that they're theoretically possible.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by ronjouch on Thursday August 10, 2017 @08:57AM (#14979135)
VimFx is not compatible with multiprocess, it will stop working soon.

See https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860 :

    - You can use the current VimFx for the rest of 2017.
    - Then, Vimium is your best bet: philc/vimium#2425
    - VimFx is free software, so if somebody feels like converting it to a WebExtension they're totally free to do so! (But you're probably going to spend your time more wisely on Vimium.)
    - I hope to create a new add-on with the best parts from VimFx some day.
    - Firefox will become a better browser! It’s sad but worth the sacrifice.
Vimium-FF does works right now: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by nemetroid on Friday August 11, 2017 @11:18AM (#14990514)
VimFx is perfectly compatible with multiprocess, as stated in the issue you linked:

https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860#issuecomme...

The issue is that VimFx is not feasible to convert into a WebExtension.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by inyourtenement on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:28PM (#14981317)
Ugh, that sucks, I just switched to VimFx because I thought it was ff57+ compatible. Now I'm not sure where I got that idea.

I haven't used vimium-ff, but it hasn't been updated in 3 months and the comments on mozilla are not encouraging.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by ronjouch on Thursday August 10, 2017 @02:25PM (#14982631)
Well, "soon" is tomorrow August 11: "PSA: Legacy extensions disabled by default on Nightly": https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-addons/2017-August/00...
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by bovine3dom on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:16AM (#14979293)
I disagree, respectfully.

I like that there's always more stuff to learn about Vimperator. It's fun. There's a nice thread on GitHub where people are talking about their favourite features:

https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/729

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by simias on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:01AM (#14978438)
That's odd, from SSD a cold firefox start takes a few seconds on my debian testing (using firefox 54 from apt). Maybe you're using a slow HDD?
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by exDM69 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:35AM (#14978628)
Nope. It's a lightning fast m.2 SSD. And warm caches don't help either.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by vanderZwan on Thursday August 10, 2017 @08:26AM (#14978910)
Are Vimperator + uBlock origin the only active add-ons? The Ubuntu Modifications one is known to cause slowdowns, for example.

What happens if you try to completely reset the Firefox profile, and bring back the plugins you want?

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by exDM69 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:49AM (#14979603)
Happens without any extensions. I'm on Arch Linux, not Ubuntu.

I don't care enough to debug it further. Firefox is stable enough these days that restarting it isn't even a daily occurence. I have enough patience to wait that 10+ seconds, it's just a minor annoyance.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by baby on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:39AM (#14978648)
> If you're the type with a lot of tabs open

Then pray for Tree Style Tabs to be implemented by default in Firefox.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by snakeanus on Thursday August 10, 2017 @08:34AM (#14978959)
I hope not. I believe that it is better for Firefox to be as light and bloat-free by default while users are free to install whatever addon provides any extra features that they need.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by baby on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:16AM (#14979295)
Tree Style Tab could be an opt-in functionality of vanilla Firefox, that wouldn't be an issue for new users.

Although I firmly believed that tabs on the side make more sense for any kind of users. Nesting tabs require a bit more practice though and that could be an opt-in option.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by CWuestefeld on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:44AM (#14979540)
As far as I can tell, it doesn't look like this - one of my favorite plugins - will survive v57.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by steveklabnik on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:56AM (#14979656)
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by CWuestefeld on Thursday August 10, 2017 @11:05AM (#14980427)
Thanks. I'd seen that thread months ago; it seems that the situation has improved a bit since then.

As I was searching around, I also came across this:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/

...which looks to have similar functionality, and is already WE compatible.