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Re:Man who made passwords hard regrets rules that 'drive peo... by JohnJamesRambo on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:21PM (#14975780)
Have his rules even been proven to be right? There's that famous xkcd comic about passwords and password strength checkers like https://howsecureismypassword.net that seem to imply otherwise. Short passwords with symbols seem easier to crack than longer ones with words put together a human could remember.
Re:Man who made passwords hard regrets rules that 'drive peo... by forapurpose on Thursday August 10, 2017 @01:23AM (#14976689)
> Have his rules even been proven to be right?

The rules, if used properly, work perfectly. But using them properly is burdensome, which means most people get lazy and the result is insecure passwords.

There are about 95 letters, numbers, and punctuation marks and symbols. If you choose a 12 character random password, it's uncrackable by brute force. The problem is, few people want to choose and remember a 12 character random password, and fewer will do that for each of the dozens of passwords they must use, so they choose insecure, non-random passwords.

Re:Man who made passwords hard regrets rules that 'drive peo... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @11:57PM (#14976206)
Right about what, specifically? Being random is good. Being short wasn't part of the rules. Rotation is pretty bad. And words don't fix the core problem of making a good password because people love picking non-random words.

In general, every two random characters is worth as much as one random word. I personally find it as easy to remember three random characters as a word, so I get better mileage out of random characters.

Re:Man who made passwords hard regrets rules that 'drive peo... by forapurpose on Thursday August 10, 2017 @01:19AM (#14976667)
> Rotation is pretty bad

Rotation is great if it's implemented correctly. The problem is that it's too much of a burden on users, therefore they implement it poorly, and then it's less useful or a weakness.

Re:Man who made passwords hard regrets rules that 'drive peo... by eksemplar on Thursday August 10, 2017 @02:50AM (#14977091)
Rotation makes people pick things like Winter2017 or write it down, and it offers little safety because being compromised for 3 months isn't that much better than being compromised for a year.
Re:Man who made passwords hard regrets rules that 'drive peo... by mallaidh on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:28PM (#14975812)
Unless it's a dictionary attack.
Re:Man who made passwords hard regrets rules that 'drive peo... by GhotiFish on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:36PM (#14975851)
the correct horse battery staple comic assumes it's a dictionary attack. https://xkcd.com/936/