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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by blusterXY on Monday August 07, 2017 @09:53PM (#14952962)
Perhaps you can post exactly where he said that, because as far as I'm aware he said nothing of the sort.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by tptacek on Monday August 07, 2017 @09:58PM (#14953016)
He said Google has '[h]iring practices which can effectively lower the bar for “diversity” candidates by decreasing the false negative rate', created in part because "humans are generally biased towards protecting females".
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by ctlby on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:09PM (#14953126)
The most direct reading of his claim is that they're hiring unqualified women. He would presumably be happy with a larger mix of female colleagues if he felt standards weren't being lowered.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by ajross on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:35PM (#14953383)
Exactly. To wit: he thinks Google is hiring too many women. Yikes. Yeah, that'll get you fired, folks.
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by notgood on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:00PM (#14953041)
...which is true and even google admits they do so to increase female count?
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by tptacek on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:08PM (#14953114)
I'm pretty sure Google does not in fact "admit they do [anything] to increase female count".
Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by ubernostrum on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @01:06PM (#14959897)
The claim made is that they "decreased the false negative rate".

Google has long prided itself on rejecting large numbers of qualified candidates. Since decreasing the false-negative rate inherently means "hire a greater quantity of qualified candidates", I fail to see how the bar was lowered.

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Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by orangecat on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:19PM (#14953220)
research suggests that “greater nation-level gender equality leads to psychological dissimilarity in men’s and women’s personality traits.”

That's a quote from this study: https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&h.... You can argue that even in more egalitarian countries the differences are entirely due to social pressures; you can't say they don't exist.

"the lack of women in tech is fine becuase that's just what happens when women, who are biologically worse at programming, don't go into tech"

"biologically worse at programming" is a total fabrication. The accurate claim is "less interested", although I suppose that's not as effective for your Two Minutes Hate.

Re:Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo by glorkk on Monday August 07, 2017 @10:28PM (#14953307)
You can take any statement and rephrase so that it sounds horrible. This is just sophistry.

That whole paragraph is saying that men and women, __as populations__ , have biological differences in psychology, temperament and interests. In prosperous societies, men and women naturally assume complementary, rather than overlapping, roles.

> We need to stop assuming that gender gaps imply sexism.

Do you disagree with this? And if so, why?

"Facts don't care about your feelings".