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Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by remarkEon on Saturday August 05, 2017 @06:28PM (#14938287)
Except he didn't say that the differences we observe are 100% due to biology. I'm actually pretty shocked at how much of this thread seems to deliberately mischaracterize what he wrote.
Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by humanrebar on Saturday August 05, 2017 @06:44PM (#14938367)
Agreed. If anything, he was objecting to begging the question in the other direction. Most of the particulars are examples of nuances that (the author thinks) need to be studied instead of ignored.
Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by Quarrelsome on Saturday August 05, 2017 @07:37PM (#14938664)
> Except he didn't say that the differences we observe are 100% due to biology.

He did, if he didn't intend to he used the wrong language. He had a section called:

> Personality Differences

Where to his credit he did say: "on average" but then he failed to distinguish these differences as cultural or social. Rather he prefixed that part of the article with a section that stated:

> On average, men and women biologically differ in many ways. These differences aren’t just socially constructed....

I don't know how to read that otherwise. My understanding is that he IS saying that biologically women (on average) are less able to negotiate pay, prefer social work to STEM, etc. Now while those are perfectly fine things to consider stating them as fact is a bit of a leap. You have to prefix your work to make it less assertion and more speculation for people not to assume what I assumed.

Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by renaudg on Saturday August 05, 2017 @07:44PM (#14938693)
You have to consider that Gizmodo has acknowledged having stripped the essay of several hyperlinks, probably lending support to his claims.

This comprehensive recap could be one of them : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rabble-rouser/201707/wh...

Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by Quarrelsome on Saturday August 05, 2017 @07:57PM (#14938761)
Yes but that's still the soft science of sociology and the author of the OP should tread carefully before asserting this as literal fact. It remains a conclusion of incomplete results. Obviously better than complete speculation but still no stronger than the technology used by the culture this OP is rallying against.
Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by renaudg on Saturday August 05, 2017 @08:13PM (#14938837)
It's arguably the culture that the OP is rallying against which relies on the "soft science of sociology" as a theoretical basis.

The OP's point on the other hand finds most of its supporting evidence in evolutionary psychology and biology.

Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by jee_accnt on Sunday August 06, 2017 @12:56PM (#14942089)
He did mention that he is not denying diversity is important or that sexism exists. And the biological differences he mentioned are "POSSIBLE non-bias causes of the gender gap in tech".

His entire argument seems to be that we should stop denying biological differences exist too. And a non 50% representation is not conclusive proof of sexism in society.

Re:The Full 10-Page Anti-Diversity Screed Circulating Intern... by remarkEon on Saturday August 05, 2017 @08:27PM (#14938915)
How in the world did you determine that "on average differences" means 100% explanation? Full disclosure, I work in supply chain and statistics is part (maybe most) of what I do so maybe I'm being pedantic.