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Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by lomnakkus on Friday August 04, 2017 @06:29PM (#14932895)
EDIT: OK, nevermind, I guess.
Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by cloakandswagger on Friday August 04, 2017 @06:52PM (#14933027)
>Perhaps that makes me a bad person.

Not bad, merely ignorant. You're celebrating the incarceration of someone you presumably know very little about, all while searching for "true" victims ("perhaps the public?") to fuel your indignation.

Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by lomnakkus on Friday August 04, 2017 @08:25PM (#14933489)
No, I think you actually mean bad. (That's not to say I don't understand your sentinment towards me, but really... I haven't hiked prices on life-saving medicines by upwards of 1000%, etc., so at least I win on moral relatisivm points?)

This man has harmed quite a few people... or their insurance companies... which of course means harming of their customers, i.e. "us" (who can even afford insurance).

I know enough about Shkreli to consider him an awful, awful person. Do I need to know how much he loves his children, or something equally conceited and pointless?

No, no I don't.

EDIT: Oh, wait, you're one of those extremist libertarian types, aren't you? (At least judging by your most recent 5 comments).

EDIT: Look, if he hadn't been convicted of securities fraud, I would still be defending his rights as a... defendant, but now that he has been convicted, I don't feel sorry for him. (For ultimately unrelated reasons, as it turns out. I'm guessing I'm a bad person for that.)

Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by lend000 on Friday August 04, 2017 @09:24PM (#14933728)
> I know enough about Shkreli to consider him an awful, awful person.

That isn't what this trial is about. Just because you don't like someone because of one thing, doesn't mean they should be getting a harsh sentence for a separate crime (which apparently had no victims).

Perhaps instead of vilifying characters who break the not at all free market pharmaceutical industry, and name-calling people who espouse ideologies that conflict with your pre-existing beliefs, you should instead consider why a single guy was able to stir up so much trouble in your heavily regulated medical industry. Was it because there wasn't enough government to protect people? Or was it more likely due to an extremely high barrier to entry to the pharmaceutical industry imposed by the FDA? (And in other cases, excessive IP protections play a significant role).

I'll leave it as an exercise.

Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by bmelton on Friday August 04, 2017 @11:36PM (#14934095)
> Look, if he hadn't been convicted of securities fraud, I would still be defending his rights as a... defendant, but now that he has been convicted, I don't feel sorry for him.

Unfair sentencing is just as much judicial malfeasance as is prosecutorial misconduct, unfair court trials or allegations. As citizens of America (which I assume, but do not know you to be) we should all champion fairness at ever level of the judicial process at all times, lest we ever find ourselves or our friends in the crosshairs of a court that we've allowed to give punitive sentencing to.

There are undoubtedly very good debates to be had on what might be considered a fair sentence for a crime of this nature, but if you're damning him for crimes completely disconnected from this case, then by definition you are championing an unfair sentence. That's the sort of thing that has allowed our judicial system to get away with so much unfair treatment in the past, and for all our sakes, we should root against it at every level.

Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by dang on Saturday August 05, 2017 @02:31AM (#14934492)
> Oh, wait, you're one of those extremist libertarian types, aren't you?

This counts as personal attack and we ban people for that. In addition, it's not legit to use HN for ideological battle. (Irrespective of which flavors you're for or against.) So would you please not post like this again?

Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by wavefunction on Friday August 04, 2017 @07:46PM (#14933302)
I feel great. Shrekeli's a terrible person and I'm comfortable with him being held to account for his crimes.
Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by throwaway7312 on Saturday August 05, 2017 @01:06AM (#14934321)
Glee at the suffering of others hardly marks a man as more evolved.

From where I sit, I do not see much difference between the man this article is about, and those enjoying schadenfreude at his expense. All are trapped in the same place.

Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by Overtonwindow on Friday August 04, 2017 @11:43PM (#14934112)
Perhaps society doing a societal good. A shot across the bow when organs of state have failed them.
Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by cm2187 on Saturday August 05, 2017 @01:10AM (#14934333)
Like Al Capone going to jail for tax fraud.
Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by Overtonwindow on Saturday August 05, 2017 @01:17PM (#14936713)
Didn't he commit tax fraud, though? There was no stretch of the law was there?
Re:Martin Shkreli is found guilty of securities fraud by cm2187 on Saturday August 05, 2017 @06:49PM (#14938401)
There wasn't but he was hit hard for tax fraud really to punish him for his other crimes.