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Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by asselinpaul on Friday August 04, 2017 @04:53AM (#14927285)
"many much better frameworks" Care to share, I'm currently investigating the space :)
Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by fotcorn on Friday August 04, 2017 @05:19AM (#14927370)
If you like BEM syntax, take a look at Kanbasu [0].

I especially like the spacers[1] for adding padding/margins without having to define separate CSS classes every time.

[0] http://kanbasu.liip.ch/

[1] http://kanbasu.liip.ch/02-helpers.html#spacings

Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by SippinLean on Friday August 04, 2017 @11:45AM (#14929540)
>I especially like the spacers[1] for adding padding/margins

Looks just like the ones out of Bootstrap 4.

The "Embed Responsive" component appears to be a clone of BS4's.

Kanbasu's grid system looks much worse

>Widths are percentages represented by fractions. All classes are constructed like .w-{nominator}/{denominator}. By default you have halves, thirds, quarters, fifths and sixths.

>Note that only the smallest fractions are generated; for example .w-2/4 doesn’t exist when both quarters and halves are in the settings, .w-1/2 take over it.

...wait, what? Seems way more complex than Bootstrap. The responsive example is even worse:

    .grid--center>.grid__item
Yikes, appears to be BEM in naming conventions only, doesn't include the specificity flattening that makes BEM so nice. So when I want to overwrite this I need to use the > combinator?!

It also appears to be totally lacking in JS components? Also missing many of the mixins that make Bootstrap more useful.

Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by tannhaeuser on Friday August 04, 2017 @05:10AM (#14927344)
Preferably, frameworks that are actually tested on a broad range of devices like Bootstrap is (eg. not just Chrome), and neither slow nor bloated.
Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by romanovcode on Friday August 04, 2017 @05:02AM (#14927321)
Bulma or Spectre comes in mind. Even their biggest "bloated" competitor foundation is ahead.
Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by SippinLean on Friday August 04, 2017 @11:50AM (#14929582)
Bulma seems much more limited in scope than BS4. Are there any JS components or Sass mixins?

>an open source CSS framework based on Flexbox and built with Sass

So, like BS4?

Spectre seems to lift most of the components directly from Boostrap, the grid system and naming conventions appear identical.

In some cases they are using some terrible practices, like the "CSS only" carousel that involves hidden radio buttons!

Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by gremlinsinc on Friday August 04, 2017 @11:40AM (#14929496)
Thanks for recommending Bulma, looks like something I could really use over Bootstrap has some nice design qualities and components..I'm more of a backend guy myself, but looks easy enough to grep and use on some side projects I build.
Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by sandGorgon on Friday August 04, 2017 @05:12AM (#14927351)
thanks for this. any opinions on which one would you choose ?
Re:Bootstrap 4 beta around the corner by bolololo1 on Friday August 04, 2017 @05:01AM (#14927320)
give us something - I still use bootstrap :)