Because Las Vegas is in the US. DC/BH are just an excuse for security people to get a company paid trip.

Having just attended DEF CON, I can say that I didn't get that vibe at all. The people who were there were very serious about the whole point of it all. I got a lot of value out of it as well.

It looks like Berlin could be a better place for such type of event.

The Chaos Communication Congress is already held annually in Germany, and is well-attended. There is absolutely an appetite for annual hacker/security conferences in the United States (and indeed we already have dozens that are held annually, of all sizes: DEF CON, BlackHat, B-Sides, SchmooCon, etc).

Haha, the ones that actually attended sessions are serious. The other guys just visit casinos and the pool and their boss pays for the trip.

The sessions were all pretty much full. There were many, many people who were taking it seriously. I can't speak to how many people just goofed around the whole trip, as I wouldn't've seen them, but it seemed to be a minority.

Probably true for Blackhat, but I think you're way off the mark on Defcon. It's the highest quality conference I've ever attended, bar none.

You mean like Defcon Beijing?

FYI for those reading this, that's not a joke. Defcon actually seems to be hosting a con in Beijing in the near future.

No. Defcon Toronto

Defcon Reykjavik? Bunch of hackers in hotsprings sounds like a party

At least then we don't have to worry about the FBI... just Bell and Rogers.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14911330

This is surreal, no other words. Like NK.

Moving Defcon to Canada doesn't solve the issue if attendees have to get there via US airspace.

Deplaning [0] is a real possibility.

[0] https://news.vice.com/story/somali-canadian-forced-off-fligh...

No thanks, don't want Canada turning into the next US.

Defcon Prague?

>But why is DefCon still in the US?

Most of the attendees are US citizens. They will lose a lot if they move it. It's better to just host another one outside of the country (and I think there are already a bunch) for people that don't want to visit the US.

It's not about his good deed, it's about the fact that he may have been involved with a bank scam Trojan in 2015