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Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by wiz21c on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:10AM (#14908796)
Maybe because pricing by, say Amazon, is published on their web site and therefore, the same for everyone ? Whereas before, when you were with one supplier, he could make specific price for you and leverage its position to make you pay more ? dunno...
Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by arethuza on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:02AM (#14909022)
I'd be very surprised if big users of AWS or Azure pay the rates advertised on the public web sites.
Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by michaelt on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @06:40AM (#14909459)
Right, nobody pays /more/ than the published prices.

And prospective users can look at the published prices, and see that historically they've gone down more than they've gone up (although obviously that trend could reverse).

So people think they're safe from the risk of Amazon quadrupling their bill over night.

Of course, vendor lock-in can have other negative effects, but apparently people aren't worried about them, or at least think AWS is no worse than the alternatives.

Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by arethuza on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @07:10AM (#14909585)
Well, if you aren't in the US there is forex risk - Azure certainly increased their prices in the aftermath of the Brexit vote decrease of GDP against the USD.
Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by mtl_usr on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @01:17PM (#14912558)
Doing any kind of business in non-USD currency is itself not a great move.
Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by latch on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:23AM (#14909121)
Like most large business, AWS has a sales department and sales engineers that behave like you expect.

Rates are absolutely negotiable.

Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by patta54 on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @02:19PM (#14913204)
Our AWS rep is nice and cheery. He'll come into our office twice a year and bring sales engineers to hear about our upcoming projects. There's one lead developer on our team who keeps imagining systems that use half a dozen AWS services for "big data". The AWS dudes always end up talking to him the most and they definitely bait him with various pitches and, of course, feed his ego. Good thing that he's so disorganized and delayed that he never has a chance to waste company money on all that bullshit.
Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by sokoloff on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @06:42AM (#14909463)
Having negotiated both, AWS is negotiable within a range that is much tighter than the range for enterprise sales of Cisco, EMC, etc gear. (Or AWS has better negotiators, but I've never gotten a call "Hey, Qx is about to end and I need to hit my numbers, so is there anything we can pull forward" from an AWS rep.)
Re:Is Amazon's cloud service too big to fail? by jrimbault on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @06:38AM (#14909445)
They could show everyone different prices (like plane tickets)