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Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by dogruck on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @12:08AM (#14907836)
I hate to be a hater, but I was never too impressed with Mossberg's reporting. My opinion is that his platform was stronger than his content. I suppose my claim is Mossberg was the New York Times Best Seller List of tech writing.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by rplst8 on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @09:17AM (#14910271)
I 100% agree with you. When Mossberg left the WSJ this thread was on HN... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6414723

The tech press was then, and is now, a total joke compared to other forms of serious journalism.

I wrote this about Mossberg's colleague Kara Swisher a few years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8036679

I think my comments still stand.

The tech press is terrible at covering:

  - Energy Use/Efficiency of tech (not just laptops I'm talking datacenters, etc.)
  - Governance of the Internet
  - Privacy (until recently - sort of [and it still gets buried])
  - Software copyright issues
  - Market/monetary prospects for new tech 
    (I think the article sort of talks about the fear of 
     "crushing innovation")
  - Energy tech itself (new forms of power generation, batteries)
  - Tech in our lives (and I'm not talking about the fear card)
     - autonomous vehicles, medical devices, etc.
And Mossberg was and is part of the problem. It's pageantry for the common man rather than serious journalism.

Things have improved slightly since I wrote that 3 or 4 years ago but there is still waaaaaaay too much noise about Apple's latest widgets. Instead we should be hearing much more about the socioeconomic, political, and societal impacts that technology has and the fact that Apple's entire business model is centered around filling our landfills with their devices that become unusable with their latest version of iOS.

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by SpikeDad on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @07:56PM (#14915799)
Oh boy.

>Apple's entire business model is centered around filling our landfills with their devices that become unusable with their latest version of iOS.

Let's review - what devices run on iOS 10 - devices made during the past 5 years (iPhone 5 came out in 2012).

Of course, Apple still supports devices way farther back than then.

You're a big fat hypocrite if you're entire argument is that it's Apple's fault. But I guess talking about Android makers doesn't get the up votes.

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by simonh on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @09:30AM (#14910357)
How can you Square writing that statement with the fact that Samsung (as just the foremost Android vendor) sells more phones than Apple, provides software updates for them for a fraction as long, has significantly shorter average device working lifetimes and doesn't come close to Apple's record on recycling? Yet you're picking on Apple. Name one device vendor that is doing more to address these issues? How can you be interested in this issue and not be perfectly aware of all of this?
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by SpikeDad on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @07:57PM (#14915802)
Downvoted the truth. It's hip to hate on Apple. I thought folks here had a little more intelligence.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by simonh on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @08:35PM (#14915994)
I don't think it's about intelligence. I really don't see how the poster can possibly not know all of this. So if that's true, why post a comment like that? I don't think it's anything to do with a lack of smarts, in fact quite the opposite. People who post stuff like that know very well what they are doing.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by rplst8 on Thursday August 03, 2017 @09:44PM (#14925708)
I didn't downvote him - as far as I know you can't downvote replies to your own comments.

P.S. The other smart phone manufacturers are just as guilty, but Apple makes the most profit from externalizing their costs. The other phone manufacturers basically lose money on the operation AFAIK.

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by jhbadger on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:32AM (#14909163)
Mossberg wasn't a "techie" in the sense of delighting in technology for the sake of itself, and so he wasn't that attractive to those of us that are. Rather he was a writer who appealed to people skeptical of technology and who wanted to know if a particular device would really be useful to somebody without a technical background for actual uses.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by martijn_himself on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:34AM (#14908905)
I have to say I agree. I'm only familiar with his recent writings but they didn't strike me as very original or standout reporting, so I don't get the adoration. I also found some of his on-stage tech interviews rather lacking in depth and personality.

I'm probably wrong though, and I get the impression I would have had to follow his contributions from his early career through to his later work to truly appreciate his influence on the tech industry.

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by m_mueller on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:19AM (#14909103)
On-stage he was IMO ok, but the ATD interviews were lowered very much in quality by his co-host Kara Swisher. Why was she in that position again and again? Why two hosts for an interview at all?
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by ddebernardy on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @01:36AM (#14908173)
Any odds you could name a few journalists whose reporting you find more impressive than Mossberg's?
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by nihonde on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @02:37AM (#14908423)
Jean-Louis Gassée (author of this piece on Mossberg) is one of my favorite commentators. He's just enough of an insider and yet also an oddball, which means he keeps it pretty real in an area that tends to be an echo chamber of fawning cultists.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by mc32 on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @01:56AM (#14908233)
From a technical pov Anand Lal Shimpi perhaps? He didn't kill it on the prose or suave approach, but on the technical detail and exactitude.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by TwoNineA on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @02:02AM (#14908256)
The CPU guy from Ars Technica was extremely good as well.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by untog on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @08:38AM (#14910012)
He is, but it seems silly to compare him to Walt Mossberg. They do very, very different kinds of tech journalism.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by dogruck on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @02:21AM (#14908347)
Agreed.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by haikuginger on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @06:58AM (#14909525)
Brian Klug also. Both at Apple now.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by ericd on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @04:34AM (#14908902)
Agreed, he was excellent.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by antonchekhov on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @02:29PM (#14913281)
Dan Gillmor did a lot of very astute writing (not necessarily just reporting, but also commentary) about many aspects of the scene in SV when he wrote for the San Jose Mercury-News. He didn't seem to care much for gossip or writing purely about personalities, and was more interested in cultural and legal effects of new technologies. I believe he's now occasionally writing for the Guardian, as well as teaching journalism at the university level.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by askafriend on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @01:59AM (#14908244)
Ben Thompson in my opinion is brilliant and extremely underrated (even for how popular he is).
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by mattkevan on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @05:09AM (#14909053)
Agreed. Ben has some of the best analysis out there.

Also worth reading:

* JLG (as already mentioned)

* Horace Dediu at Asymco

* Kontra at Counternotions – posts very infrequently but always insightful

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by jkw on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:11PM (#14906711)
A journalist among journalists.

He was probably Steve Job's most respected tech journalist. That's saying a lot. When the early iPhones launched, only a handful of journalists had a review device; Mossberg was one of them.

As opinionated as Jobs was, Mossberg was one of the few people where he would not criticize nor argue when Mossberg had feedback for Apple products.

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by icpmacdo on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @09:38PM (#14907201)
Mossberg and Jobs were pretty close friends in Job's later years it seems.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by PhantomGremlin on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:00PM (#14907294)
Here's Walt Mossberg (nee Mosspuppet) interviewing Steve Jobs. Definitely NSFW. Tempus fugit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr4pPAn-m5g

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by cooper12 on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @01:44AM (#14908198)
By the way, the male equivalent of "née" that you're looking for is "né".
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by PhantomGremlin on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @07:52AM (#14909746)
I didn't know there was a female/male distinction. In my defense, Wiktionary says: In the original French, the masculine form né should be used when the subject is masculine. In English, this distinction is not always followed.

But even ignoring gender I still kind of screwed it up. I was really going more for "a.k.a.".

And I'm quite sad that so many downvoted the Mosspuppet. I really loved that character. He really added some fun to the otherwise somewhat stuffy Walt Mossberg.

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by basseq on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @10:21AM (#14910757)

  And I'm quite sad that so many downvoted the Mosspuppet.
I bet most people thought you were coining a derogative term for Mossberg with the implication he was a puppet (mouthpiece) of Jobs/Apple. Not a literal puppet character. (I know I did.)
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by quasimodem on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:07PM (#14907626)
I was confused that the huge photo at the top of the article is not of Walt Mossberg.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by Stratoscope on Wednesday August 02, 2017 @01:15AM (#14908112)
The original version of the article has an actual picture of Walt, and also the "majestic, elegantly curved Millau Viaduct with its cable stays spread like sails":

https://mondaynote.com/a-salute-to-walt-mossberg-e3c562288f0...

Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by sohkamyung on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:30PM (#14907714)
Technically Mossberg was in the photo: he's out of focus on the right side facing away from the camera.
Re:Saluting Walt Mossberg’s career by leoc on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:17PM (#14907392)
Wasn't there a story some time ago about the WSJ having run a hit piece at Apple's/SJ's behest, but using a different reporter's byline so as not to besmirch the Walt Mossberg brand? Apologies if I am misremembering...