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Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by krylon on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @06:03AM (#14899164)
> Worry not about German carmakers, they have infinite money to throw at any project. Once they decide to go serious about electric, Tesla won't be able to keep up with the competition.

If they have not come around by now, I seriously doubt they will make serious investments in electric cars unless the government forces them.

Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by kagamine on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @06:22AM (#14899240)
They have hybrids of current models so assume that they are hedging their bets and taking it slow. Heavy investment in the wrong direction could destroy a company even the size of VW group.

Tesla is a youngling with heavy investment and no guaranteed future. Like so many tech firms it could be gone in a flash. Once the Euro EV subsidies and tax breaks disappear as the have begun to do in Denmark Tesla will be on a level playing field. Expect the opposing teams to foul if it means scoring goals.

Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by blkhawk on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @07:51AM (#14899706)
"hedging their bets"????? Thats like falling out of an airplane and not pulling the paracute because you don't know exactly how far away the ground is and if its soft or not.
Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by kagamine on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:01AM (#14899766)
More like parachutes are deemed environmentally wrong and need to be replaced by something, so parachute manufacturers are coming up with wing suits and big bits of foam and then Parachutes_International are thinking were do we put our money and how do we change our 100 years of parachute manufacturing industry and what will SuperDryChutesJpn do and what do consumers want and where did I put my glasses?
Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by dageshi on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @06:40AM (#14899323)
Two "governments" already have, French and British governments will ban sales of combustion engine cars in 2040, those are two big markets for German cars.
Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by kuschku on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @08:50AM (#14900086)
Germany actually decided an ICE car ban from 2030 on already.
Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by krylon on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:23AM (#14900894)
I am German, I don't think that is actually government policy. The Green Party has made a resolution demanding that ban by 2030.

But one party asking for a ban on ICE by 2030 is not sufficient against the German car industry.

Just to be clear, I would be very happy to see the streets rid of petrol-burning engines as soon as possible. But I doubt it will actually happen by 2030, there is too much inertia in the industry that has done quite well with one-track thinking for about a hundred years.

Someone here on HN recently quoted a business consultant saying, "culture eats strategy for breakfast". This would explain perfectly why it took two outsider companies - Google and Tesla - to develop the technology for autonomous cars and electric cars.

I feel reminded of the story of Xerox and its PARC research facility - if Xerox had played their cards right, they could have been Microsoft AND Apple combined. But the inflexible bureaucratic hulking giant that Xerox had become was unable to adapt to the new technology. IMHO, the current car companies are facing a similar situation right now. If they do not get on top of that development now, they could quite likely end up like Xerox did with the computer market.

Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by kuschku on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @10:56AM (#14901262)
> I am German, I don't think that is actually government policy. The Green Party has made a resolution demanding that ban by 2030.

The Bundesrat has actually passed a joint statement of the Länder to do such a ban.

Re:Mercedes kills their only electric car by krylon on Tuesday August 01, 2017 @11:30AM (#14901754)
You are right. But still, I will believe it when I see it.