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Re:The R. Kelly ‘cult’ story and the ‘Gawker Effect’ by jgalt212 on Monday July 31, 2017 @09:45AM (#14891871)
I think you meant Fourth Estate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Estate

Re:The R. Kelly ‘cult’ story and the ‘Gawker Effect’ by Intermernet on Monday July 31, 2017 @10:51AM (#14892494)
The fifth estate[1] has apparently existed for a while now, despite my hatred of all "nth estate" nomenclature

Seriously, in the US, if you regard the clergy, nobleman and peasants (the traditional first 3 estates) as the most important power structures, then you need to recalibrate your world view.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Estate

Re:The R. Kelly ‘cult’ story and the ‘Gawker Effect’ by vec on Monday July 31, 2017 @11:54AM (#14893079)
That's the origin of the phrase, yes, but in the US the phrase "Fourth Estate" has been bastardized to mean "Fourth Branch of Government".
Re:The R. Kelly ‘cult’ story and the ‘Gawker Effect’ by Pigo on Monday July 31, 2017 @09:56AM (#14891977)
I'm so gullible, for a minute there I was like "there's a fifth estate now"? I thought I was going to have to google what this new estate was all about.
Re:The R. Kelly ‘cult’ story and the ‘Gawker Effect’ by mmjaa on Monday July 31, 2017 @11:04AM (#14892639)
The Fifth Estate are bloggers, and sites like Gawker:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Estate

Re:The R. Kelly ‘cult’ story and the ‘Gawker Effect’ by Pigo on Monday July 31, 2017 @02:18PM (#14894583)
Well then, shows how much I know. I'd never heard of them being called that. It seems odd that another type of news agency would be a different estate.