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Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by SkyMarshal on Monday July 05, 2010 @02:56PM (#1488832)
Defationary collapse of a massive debt bubble != down-swing of the business cycle.

Also, a quick look at just about every economic empire in history shows their decline was always associated with a massive negative trade balance. The theorists seem to ignore this though. If it's not codified in a dazzling formula, it's irrelevant.

Not that I'm for protectionism or anti-globalization, but it's certainly not beyond questioning, reconsidering, and/or re-engineering.

Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by hugh3 on Monday July 05, 2010 @06:06PM (#1489241)
Defationary collapse of a massive debt bubble != down-swing of the business cycle

They look pretty much the same from the perspective of July 2010. What's the big difference?

Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by SkyMarshal on Monday July 05, 2010 @11:41PM (#1489870)
Routine business cycle downswings don't require over a trillion dollars to prevent the economy from tailspinning into another Great Depression.

If you add up the TARP and all the alphabet soup lending support programs, the stimulus package/s, and Fed's quantitative easing intervention, you're talking well over a trillion dollars, and we're still not out of it yet.

This was a speculative debt bubble followed by the inevitable financial crisis. See Rogoff & Reinhardt. Definitely not part of the business cycle.