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Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by jacoblyles on Monday July 05, 2010 @10:40AM (#1488276)
The down-swing in a business cycle is the time for everyone to resurrect their pet anti-trade theories.
Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by SkyMarshal on Monday July 05, 2010 @02:56PM (#1488832)
Defationary collapse of a massive debt bubble != down-swing of the business cycle.

Also, a quick look at just about every economic empire in history shows their decline was always associated with a massive negative trade balance. The theorists seem to ignore this though. If it's not codified in a dazzling formula, it's irrelevant.

Not that I'm for protectionism or anti-globalization, but it's certainly not beyond questioning, reconsidering, and/or re-engineering.

Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by hugh3 on Monday July 05, 2010 @06:06PM (#1489241)
Defationary collapse of a massive debt bubble != down-swing of the business cycle

They look pretty much the same from the perspective of July 2010. What's the big difference?

Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by SkyMarshal on Monday July 05, 2010 @11:41PM (#1489870)
Routine business cycle downswings don't require over a trillion dollars to prevent the economy from tailspinning into another Great Depression.

If you add up the TARP and all the alphabet soup lending support programs, the stimulus package/s, and Fed's quantitative easing intervention, you're talking well over a trillion dollars, and we're still not out of it yet.

This was a speculative debt bubble followed by the inevitable financial crisis. See Rogoff & Reinhardt. Definitely not part of the business cycle.

Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by cangrande on Monday July 05, 2010 @02:24PM (#1488757)
Precisely, there has been a habit amongst commentators during period's of recession to trot out the need for protectionism. During the 1980s Japan was the biggest threat, leading to all sorts of political pronouncements and movements, and now it's China.
Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by jeremytliles on Monday July 05, 2010 @05:09PM (#1489106)
And the replacement of our manufacturing base by Japan and then China is not an issue?
Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by cangrande on Wednesday July 07, 2010 @05:23PM (#1495531)
I don't think it is an issue, plus I'm not sure if it's accurate. Setting aside the automobile industry there are still some extremely successful manufacturing companies in the US.

Eliyahu M. Goldratt wrote an interesting book on the subject in the 1980s.

Re:Andy Grove Essay Commentary by Tyler Cowen by jacoblyles on Monday July 05, 2010 @06:06PM (#1489242)